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I’ve been playing at this table for 3 hours. I’m up approximately 200BB and have created a TAG image, with the only hand I’ve shown down is the 2nd nuts and aces. The villain in this hand has me covered. Villain is passive pre flop, limp calls most hands, and tends to only raise with premiums. Post flop I’ve seen him check raise once with an open ended straight/back door flush draw, drilling the straight on the river and getting max value from two pair.
Now, in a straddled pot (8 handed) villain limps in from UG+1, button raises to 20, folds to hero in the straddle with 78 of diamonds. I call and the villain completes.
Pot 63
Flop comes 10c 7h 8h
Hero checks
Reasoning for checking is to plan for a check raise. The original raiser has put out a continuation bet at a high frequency and even the villain might donk bet with a top pair/draw type hand.
Unfortunately it checks throughPot 63
Turn 4c
I decided to lead out for 35. Reason being is for hand protection and to charge any draws. Villain doesn’t think long before raising to 85. Button folds. Now my first real time reaction was to fold. But, I think villain could do this with all of his 9x of clubs/diamonds combinations, or any 10 plus straight/diamond draw combinations. Only credible set I give him is 4s, since we block 7/8s and considering the preflop action I see him never having 10s here. He all so could have J9. So considering all his bluff combinations I toss in the call and plan to call down on any blank rivers.Pot 233
River 3d
Board 10c 7h 8h 4c 3d
Hero checks
Villain bets 115
We don’t like it. My first real time reaction was to fold again, but I told myself I was gonna call down to any blank, so I did.Villain shows J9 off and wins a nice pot
Any suggestions on how else I could of played this hand. Could I have folded?
Hi!
Just an annoying spot.
In BB/this case straddle vs limp&raise or raise&call, I like 3-betting my 98 suited down to 54 suited or fold them simply because they’re too week to call OOP. I think calling is not a great play ESPECIALLY vs a limp and btn open. I don’t know what raising it up to $65 looks like to an avg 1/2 player (I mean your opponents; is it interpreted as top 5% hands all the time?) of course vs appropriate stack sizes
When you 3-bet a number of scenarios might happen:
1-You take it down
2-You get called in one spot
3-You get called in two spots
4-You get 4-bet.
5- You get called, then face a 4-betoption 1 is what we want with 87dd. If we raise and scoop all the time, we should be happy because we won with 8 high!
Option 2 will allow us to win on various boards and even double barreling on some boards. On this specific board, we can bet confidently repping over pairs and continue betting on the turn blank.
on boards such as A82, A73, A99, AK4, K22, Q22, Q54, etc. we can rep any ace and shut down if we get action.
On boards like AJT, KJ9, QJ8, QT9, JT3, We can check/fold and be proud that we tried.The best thing about getting option 2 is that the caller’s range of hands does not overlap with our small suited connectors. We want a call from AJ, AT, A9, KQ, KJ, QJ … We’re only in trouble if we get over flushed which is very rare or they have 99 TT JJ QQ because we might get unwanted action from them on boards when we have a pair + straight draw.
Now, of course you have a better read on your opponents and whether UTG is limp/raising a lot or btn is not opening lite etc..
Another thing why raising or folding here is better is because when we do flop big, we can stack pocket JJ QQ 99 even slow played KK & AA. Besides, we need to 3-bet some of the suited connectors sometimes. We can’t just be high-cards-heavy everytime we 3-bet. Folding is also a better option because we’re playing against two players OOP. if we call, one of them could have us dominated A7, A8, J9, J8,T8, 98 all of which would have a good price to call. All of which would most likely not call 3-bet either. When we call, we’re setting ourselves up to loose or get bluffed. We need a 773 board to feel confident, even with that, we would not feel we’re ahead 100% of the time when we get played back at by over pairs because of our shitty kicker. When we 3-bet with these hands, we eliminate a large deal of potential problems. This is might be more true in 5/10 and 2/5 but I think it applies to 1/2 as well.
let me know what you think.
Thanks Yazzie
I think you could be right about 3 betting being the best option. I think calling is okay, but possibly only without the limper in play. Especially when the limper is going to call close to 100 percent of the time and his range could consist of many hands that have me dominated.
3 bet and plan to fold to a 4 bet. Barrel on some good flops that favor my range, or turns where I pick up equity and apply max pressure on the river. I should give up on some flops. And obviously bet for value when I smack the flop.
I see that my mistake was definitely preflop
Thanks man
I all so like folding depending on the aggressor and limper in the pot. Whether the limper is incredibly sticky and call happy, and whatever the aggressor’s appeared range is at the time. A better spot will come.
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