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  • #3133
    Han
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    I played a session last night and the games were good. I’m really surprised how many games were running for a weekday evening. I have one hand last night, that was interesting and wanted to hear your thoughts on my decision making. It ended up a losing session for me by the way, down $700. I can’t seem to win.

    V1 in this hand was not playing many hands at all. I must’ve seen him play 3 hands in 4 orbits, and he did get further than the turn in those hands he was playing. I profiled him as very-tight.
    V2, I’m gonna say he fit a stereotype very well. Generally, a bad player. I seen him limp-shove with small pairs and really over-played his mid-pair on the flop. He appeared to be playing a tournament style of poker. He also bought in short each time he was stacked. He’d been only showing up with pocket pairs so far.

    Hero stack: 260
    Hero hand: AA
    Hero position: Button

    V1 stack: 500
    V1 hand: ???
    V1 position: UTG

    V2 stack: 100
    V2 hand: 88
    V2 position: SB

    Preflop:
    V1 limps, hero raise to 15, V2 calls, V1 calls. Three ways to the flop

    Pot: 48
    Flop: 9 5 4 rainbow
    V2 checks, V1 checks, hero bets 25, V2 raise 50, V1 reraise to 200, hero tank-folds, V2 tank-calls all-in

    Pot: ~200
    Turn: Qx

    River: blank

    V2 scoops the pot with 88!

    I suppose that may have been an ok board for AA, but against these two, I still had to be careful with their calling range. V1 had been playing very tight, so my mental note was any aggression from him should be respected. My bet on the flop was for value against a 9 or straight-draw. When V2 check-min-raised me, I knew it was not a set. This min raise was more of a one-pair hand, except this time, he was crushed by my aces. I was ready to stack off with him.

    V1 check-reraise changed my plan. I was really confused by this action from both opponents and just the sizing. Extreme over-bet, nearly putting me all-in. I tanked for 2 minutes going over what I knew about V1 and what hand he may have. He limped called preflop, then checked-reraised on the flop. I thought at the time, he check-reraised two opponents, this has to be a strong hand can beat over-pairs. I leveled myself into thinking he had a set or two pair here.

    I decided to fold, based on the action and player. I was surprised to learn, that he raised for a straight-draw. V2 calls of coarse, overplaying his mid-pair again. I thought, “These guys are crazy!”, and I just made another bad fold at this place. V1 goes on this speech about, “I raised because that would be only way I get paid if my draw hits. He wouldn’t call me if my draw came in.” V2 then goes on his little spew, “I had a read on both of them, I knew what he had, which is why I called.” I thought in my head…”You motherfuckers suck!”

    At the table, I told myself it was a good-disciplined decision, and tried to play a solid-game. When I got home, I was beating myself up. “I keep losing because I fold when I shouldn’t and call when I’m clearly behind.”

    • This topic was modified 7 years, 7 months ago by Han.
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    #3138
    John S
    Participant

    I don’t fault your play. I suppose my only question is how much have you seen V1 play? Playing 3 hands in 4 orbits isn’t enough to classify someone as very-tight. He could be card dead, or texting his girl on his phone, or whatever else. You want a little more history before you label someone old man coffee.

    That limp call on the flop, then check- 3-bet on the flop is very strong. I’m shocked this isn’t a set. I don’t think you’re good here that often. Plus he’s got another $300 behind that you have to be willing to call off.

    He played goofy, don’t feel bad that you folded the best hand.

    #3139
    Han
    Participant

    I’ve never seen V1 before. I went with my default profile based on what I observed at the table. After this hand, I did see him limp with AK in EP and played it passively. So it was pretty close to and OMC type =). The floor later told me, dude had been at the same seat for 7 hours. Chasing after his losses. Playing the way he did, I don’t envy him one bit.

    I’m glad you agree with my decision, no one else seems to agree. Maybe they knew more than I did. I also think my previous experience with over-cards and facing large bets had something to do with my decision as well.

    I hate losing, but I hate losing to bad plays even more.

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