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01/22/2018 at 11:59 pm #2292Alex MeekParticipant
This hand took place in 1/2 at crown casino Melbourne. Crowns 1/2 game is capped at 100 dollar buy in so limited to a very small game
First hand I’ve chipped up slightly to about 160 (sadly second bullet). Quite a passive table but with lots of limp calls pre flop. Couple of limps to me in the cut off where I have queen 8 of clubs. I raise up to 12, button and big blind call, limpers fold. (is the open too loose?).
Flop comes A55 rainbow with 5 of clubs, big blind checks. Here I feel against two passive players with the betting lead I can fire representing the ace and quite often get two folds so I bet 16. The button folds big blind calls.
Turn comes K of clubs, big blind checks again. With a picked up flush draw and still having good aces within my range I fire again this time 24 (probably a bit small in relation to the pot but in these games rare to see bets this big). The big blind calls.
River comes J of clubs hitting my nut flush. The big blind goes ahead and jams for about 50 more I snap call.
Now Brad said in one of his video’s that a leak of his is calling without thinking enough about it and this is definitely something I struggle with. Looking back at this I thought what could the big blind have here to call flop and turn and all that comes to mind is a boat or quads, so I think this could actually be a fold, would love to know other peoples thoughts.
As it happened I said “I made a flush” and showed and he mucked. Now at this point everyone at the table looked at me in disbelief as if i’d played this hand abysmally and made a lucky river. Would love to know if I have played it abysmally or if the thought process I had was ok.
01/23/2018 at 4:31 am #2298RayanParticipantHi Alex !
I’m gonna try to give you my opinions as clearly as I can ^^
First of all, I don’t think your raise pre-flop was too loose. Judging by what you wrote before, and after in the hand, you were likely facing unexperienced players. If you don’t raise enough, you’re gonna have to play multiways pots, we do not like that ^^ So of course it is more expansive, but those raises are definitely needed according to me.
The cards were on your side in this hand, nice river ! That doesn’t mean “lucky river” though aha. You c-bet trying to represent the Ace, the button doesn’t have it and folds. The BB calls, and the BB can have a looot of combos. Maybe an Ace, but he can definitely have a 5 if he / she is the type of player who likes to defend the big blind.
Knowing that, yep you could have thought a little bit more before calling on the river, though I understand your relief hitting the nut flush xD. Difficult to know if he has a boat or not, since you’re leading the action. But to my mind, if he had it, he would have let you bet a third time on the river, to be sure to take all the money. Maybe I’m wrong, but it just seems like he had a 5, or tried some kind of weird bluff, with no real story told…And finally to address the players staring at you like “he’s been so damn lucky”, well, it seems like what I said at the beginning was right, they may be slightly unexperienced. Your first c-bet is a bluff since you totally miss the flop, but then you bet your draws and I don’t see anything wrong with that. Maybe you should try to play with’em more often aha. Cheers !
01/23/2018 at 9:56 am #2306John SParticipantYou can’t fold there, not the way you played it and not for that price. You were aggressive the whole way, you represented having the Ace so your hand is well disguised.
He shouldn’t have many full houses here because they are just so unlikely (A5, K5, J5 is about it, and only one he should be calling a raise pre-flop with is A5 suited).
My guess is he had a weak Ace, saw the flush on the board at the end and decided to jam to represent that. He may have had a 5, but I would expect there to be a raise on the turn. But many low limit players are super passive so I wouldn’t discount that.
The only flush he should realistically have is AX suited which beats you. Anything else he floated the flop with nothing and went runner runner to make a flush. You can have a few flushes because you’ve been the aggressor the whole hand so your range is wider. Yeah you got lucky, but his shove there makes no sense.
01/23/2018 at 11:59 am #2309KelownaPokerDad (Matt)ParticipantI like how you played it. Agree with the guys above.
Only thing I’ll add, is that stack sizes play being so small… it makes it really tough to get a bluff through as people will likely always be priced in. I say this in the event you have a key blocker and not the nut flush… and decide to barrel the river.
nice pot!
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