2-3 against aggro player

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  • #3752
    David Wibel
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    I was playing at a super action table recently, it was a 2-3 game with about 8k+ at the table. The table was mostly playing around 2 extremely aggro players, each of whom at one point had between $1k to $1.5k. I’ve seen multiple airball bluffs, calling down with bottom pair no kicker and some extremely questionable value bets (2 pair onto a 4 flush 3 straight board). My image is somewhat nitish, I tanked called with top-bottom two pair on 2 to a flush 3 to a straight turn but I am betting, not just calling. I haven’t show a bluff however.

    This hand comes about two thirds of the way through my session against one of the aggro players I have a couple of questions about my specific line I took and want to see what your thoughts are.

    Hero: $340 in late position, AKo
    Villain: $1.4k in Middle position

    Pre-Flop: MP aggro player raises to $15, his standard raise with no limpers, folds to me in the Lojack, I raise to $50, folds back to Villain who calls. He has a VPIP somewhere around 40% and it seems he calls 3-bets with something like half of those hands.

    Flop 864 rainbow: Villain checks and this is my first question, what would your line be? I try to bet with some of my worse Ax in spots like these (A2-A5 suited that I 3-bet bluff) and check with my better Aces since I still have good equity against pairs which I don’t think I can get him to fold. I checked and we are off to a turn.

    Turn 2 diamonds: This brings the 2nd diamond on the board and villain bets $60. I call because of how many bluffs I have seen him make. It’s likely I am good or any A or K makes me the winner. It’s possible he has pair plus straight but I really think that is higher up in his range.

    River 4: Villain bet $100, the 4 doesn’t change anything I because of how aggro he is I end up tank calling. This is my second question, should I be calling with AK here? I think in this case it is an exploitative call because of how aggressive the player has been and against the majority of players I would fold.

    Let me know your thoughts and I will reveal the results later. Thanks all!

    #3756
    John S
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    Pre-flop – I probably raise bigger. Somewhere between $60-75. You’re in position, with a premium hand, against and aggro guy with a 500BB stack. I’m making this pot bigger. If he’s going to call with way too much of his hands I’m going to charge him a lot more.

    Flop – I could go either way. He’s never folding a pair, probably not folding a gutter. Is he going to fold two overs (like JT)? The problem is he’s probably playing a lot of connectors which means he’s hit this board a decent amount of time. He’s also got a lot of random broadway hands that probably have to fold if you continue. You can have JJ+ whereas he really can’t. I’d probably continue for 2/3 pot and see what happens.

    Turn – If he calls, I probably proceed with caution. The turn doesn’t change anything unless he’s got specifically 53, but he could have a pair. He probably checks and I would check back, expecting him to lead the river.

    River – I probably call given the price. You’re probably good about 50% of the time, depending on how aggro/maniac he really is.

    As played – $310, 100 to call, so you’re getting a little better than 3:1, have to be good 25% of the time, which you probably are. I probably call, but against a player like this I tend to like to wait and find a really good spot. I think by calling this turn you’re saying you’re going to call the river unless a 1-liner shows up, which it didn’t.

    #3768
    DeeKay
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    Interesting situation.
    I have no issue with pre-flop betting. I want to charge him and build a pot considering your hand is strong and he’s ultra aggressive.
    The flop stinks, and my question here is although he’s aggressive, is he playing appropriate hands or any two cards. If his hand range is large, I’d be pretty scared of this flopping hitting his range pretty good. In which case, control the pot size and check back like you did. Keep in mind, he is probably concerned with your pre-flop raise so he might be afraid that you are holding a premium pair. I could also see you c-betting with that representation, but I would downsize that bet to about $35.
    Rive I think I’m folding here. Yes, he might be bluffing and you might have the better hand, but I’m not paying him off in a situation where I really don’t know where I am. I do like saving my chips for a better spot where I’m likely better.
    Easier to determine once I’m understanding the player’s starting hand range, but assuming its pretty wide, I’m ok folding here and taking advantage later in a better spot.

    #3787
    David Wibel
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    Thanks for the feedback.

    I actually think I misplayed the hand on the flop and turn. The river changed nothing, I was either winning or losing on the turn. I think checking back some of my weaker Ace high hands like ATs, AJs and AQo while C-getting some of my stronger Ace high may be a better idea.

    As it turns out, villain had AJo. I thought at the time he would be calling an expanded range of broadway hands and fewer suited connectors facing a 3-bet preflop.

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