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Hey guys. Wanted to share an interesting hand I played last night and get some feedback.
I sit down with $800 in a $200 min -$1k max 2/5 game that plays like a $5$/$10. Generally decent loose action game.
Fourth hand of the night. Two villains. Both regulars in this game but I haven’t seen villain 1 much.
I’m on the button with KcQc
Villain 1is BB
Villain 2 is on my right in the CO.CO opens it to $25. I consider a a 3b here but decide to flat.
BB makes the call
Flop comes K76r
Checks around
Turn comes 8 completing the rainbow.
BB checks CO bets $90. I call BB calls.
River is Q.
BB checks CO bets $190.
I call.
BB raises to $600
CO folds.
Hero?
Yuck… any history with Villain 1? If not, I think you have to fold here. My question is why the check on the flop?
Not totally sure why I checked the flop. I wasn’t trying to get it in with KQ here with no draw to a flush or straight.
The crazy thing about the hand is that I ended up folding. Villain two said he had two pair k7 so I think villain 1 either slow played a set or just bluffed. I figured I was only beating a bluff in this spot since villain one is betting into two people.
Agreed… you are not beating much here. A Set(although unlikely), Two Pair or a Straight sounds more like it. I am definitely not saying to get it “all” in here on the flop with KQ, however it is highly likely you take down the $80 pot right there and move on to the next. If he calls your flop bet you can slow down.
That’s an interesting one. Not 3-betting is totally fine with KQcc since it has a lot of value. If I’m 3-betting with KQ it’s because I want to do it as a bluff, if your opponent is opening with hands like K7 then you’re way ahead of his range and don’t need to turn it into a bluff. I’d be more inclined to do that with KQo.
Seems like you definitely should be betting that flop.
If the BB really has a hand that has us beat it’s super risky for him to flat the turn. Any 4, 5, 9, or T makes a one card straight and could potentially make it really tough for him to get paid, especially since he’s playing out of position. Then going for the check raise on the river is risky as well. The CO probably isn’t always firing a second bullet once he gets called by two people on the turn so there’s a good chance it gets checked through. I guess the CO did overbet the pot on the turn so maybe the BB could’ve flatted with the nuts hoping the CO bombs river again? The CO only bet a little over half pot on the river which makes it look like he’s scared of something though and that might’ve induced a bluff from the BB.
Since no one bet flop, if I were the BB I might not think anyone has a hand better than one pair and could potentially fire a bluff with a missed straight. This is one of the very best holdings you’ll ever have once you play the hand this way so I’d probably call for that reason. The pot is $1327 and it’s $410 more for you to call. You’re getting well over 3:1 on a call meaning that you have to win the hand a little less than 1 out of 4 times for it to be profitable. In 2/5 people don’t bluff rivers that often so folding could be fine. I wouldn’t beat yourself up about it much but I would’ve bet that flop, checked turn, then bet river.
Thanks for sharing the hand. That was a good one.
What a weird line by the BB. Given no relevant history with the Villain I’d probably fold, but maybe that’s just a bit too nitty. We’ve really under-repped our hand.
All that said, bet the flop for value! I think you’ll get called by a lot of worse holdings here and while strengthening our check back range is good, getting immediate value is probably better.
Right or wrong, the one thing I’ve consciously changed in my game this year is, when I hit a flop, I bet. Before I might be worried someone has a better pair or better kicker and small ball it. Problem I was running in to was similar to this, I’d check and/or not play aggressive, then face a big bet and assume I checked a guy into making a big hand. Finally realized if I play a hand and hit, why else did I play it but to hope to hit and get paid, so bet it. Go down swinging I guess. Easy for me to bet your money, huh Andrew? LOL Good luck pal.
you need to 3bet sometimes pre which you stated which i like
you need to be the flop for value!
turn you now have to just call which you did
river i think you have to call cause of how you played your hand!
the BB can be value betting worse cause of the line you took!
next time just bet the flop so you can start to define peoples ranges and have a better feel for where you are in the hand and you dont get into this sort of spot on the river
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