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Hey guys. Since I’m so active on here but don’t play much, I decided to take some notes on my session yesterday. It was about a 7 hours session (I usually play around 4 hours). Game is 3-5 spread limit, max bet is $500. Feel free to critique away. I’ll try to give a reason for some of the action I took if anyone finds one of the hands interesting.
A couple of notes – Anywhere from 2-4 pros were at the table at any time. Because of this I switched seats about 45 minutes into the session so most of them were on my right. Lots about straddling, about 25-40% of hands, so it often played much bigger than 3-5.
Even at these stakes, there were still players making very simple errors. One player, seat 5, would donk bet every time he hit top pair or better. Another player showed up with $1,000 in all red chips ($5). This is somewhat of a tell that he’s inexperience as most players buy in for that amount with at least $500 in green ($25). This guy was young and way out of his league, proceeded to lose about $2k in 3 or so hours.
Saw one player going for 3 streets of value w/ 88 on a 7676T board. Only to be called down by 99.
Hand 1: Early in the game, straddled pot, 2 limps. I raise AA in SB to $70, everyone folds. Too large of a bet?
Hand 2: I raised KQo UTG to 20, MP and SB call. Flop is K66r, I bet $30, only SB call. Turn K669r, checks through. River K669J, I bet $65, SB folds.
Hand 3: I raised the straddle to $30 with AQo from EP, 3 callers (including 2 pros in blind/straddle). Flop is KQX, checks through. Turn comes blank, SB leads for $80, I fold.
Hand 4: I have AQdd in SB, button raises to $25, I call and one limper calls. Flop is QTXhh, I check, button bets $65, only I call. Turn is QTXXhhh, checks through. River is a blank – what should I do?
Hand 5: Just an interesting hand – I have 99 in BB, straddle pot. HJ (pro) raises to $30, CO (pro) raises to $105, SB call. I think I’m somewhere between $6-800 effective. I tank fold. Straddle calls, HJ to $600. CO folds, SB tank folds, Straddle tanks for a few minutes and calls all-in. Board comes down AKT46. HJ had AT for flopping 2 pair, straddle rivers a set of 6’s to scoop.
Hand 6: HJ to $25, I call next to act w/ A5ss. Flop is J74hhs, HJ bets $30, I float. Turn comes J7hh42ss, HJ leads for $50, my action? Call, raise, or fold?
Hand 7: I raise K7ss to $20 from MP (I normally don’t open this hand, but I had been inactive and I like to open these hands so I don’t appear too tight if I haven’t played a hand in a while). 3 calls, only 1 player behind. Flop is T77, I lead $30, only HJ calls. Turn is T779, I bet $70, call. River is T7799, I jam for $112, get insta-called. K7 good. Sizing? Leading all 3 streets?
Hand 8: So I wouldn’t believe this hand if I wasn’t in it. This was a goofy hand for a 1-2 game, but this was 3-5, so it happens everywhere. 2 limps, I raise ATo from button to $30. 2 calls. Main villain is the young kid with all the red chips. Flop is AA2. I bet $30, V in UTG1 calls. Turn AA22, I bet 60, call from UTG 1. River AA22Q, I bet $175, he raises me all-in, $404. I call figuring we chop. He turns over KQ. Nearly a $1k pot with that.
Hand 9: I raise in MP w/ A3dd, 2 callers (V is pro in BB). Flop T52d, BB donks $45, I float hoping to improve. Turn T52dd, BB bets $110, I call. I think he has a 10 and my A is good as well. River is T5289ddd, I make nut flush, only lose to 67dd. BB checks, I overbet $325, he tank calls after about 30 sec. I show, he leaves table after this hand. Did I misplay or miss value here?
Hand 10: I raise A7hh UTG1 to $20, button and blinds call. Button and BB pros. QQ8h, checks through. Turn QQ8Jhh, BB $35, I call, button calls. River blank. BB bets $110, I fold, button calls. BB has QJ for boat, button has T9 for straight.
Hand 11: Straddle pot, I raise K6cc to $30 from HJ, sb and straddle (pro) call. Flop is 875r, I bet $45, call from button, straddle to $175. He’s an active pro who’s shown a tendency to play draws fast. I call since he shouldn’t put me on a 6 (probably mistake one). Turn is 875Ass, straddle leads $200. I fold thinking that Ace should hut my range and slow him down, but he doesn’t. I fold. He claims he had T9 for the open ender? Not sure if I believe it.
Hand 12: QQ in EP, raise to $20. Pro in blind calls. Flop JTX, I bet $25, call. Turn is JTX9, I bet $40, pro makes it $120, I call. River is blank. Pro makes it $165. This is the same player from Hand 11 and a few others. My action.
Crazy bonus hand I got away from, midway through session. Pro from Hand 11 and 12 raises to $20, 2 or 3 callers. I raise to $135 w/ JJ from CO. Button quickly makes it $325 (note, in spread limit, 3 raises is the max. So no one can raise from here). He only has about $200 left. SB tank fold and whispers something to his neighbor. One caller. HJ tank folds, I do the same. I figure he’s got KK+, rarely is this even AKs.
Flop comes AQJ. Caller goes all in, button snap calls. Caller had AKo, button has AA. SB claims he had QQ (which judging by his reaction is true). Would have been set over set over set had there not been a 4-bet.All in all, I only feel I made a few bad plays. In for $800, out for $500. Probably should keep my sessions shorter, but it was a good table that was paying off some questionable hands. My lowest stack was around $300, my max was $1,400. Some of these hands are pretty basic, but I’m happy to talk about any of them, hopefully something here will help someone improve their game. I know reading other people’s hands have improved mine.
Hand 1:
The straddle makes it 3-5-10. I think Brad likes to make it 3x + x for each limp. So 30 + 20 = 50. But I think you also considered the dead money in the pot and bumped to a pot raise. I think that’s a fine raise. Plus you won an uncontested pot, which is a good thing too.Hand 2:
I’m not very comfortable playing that hand from upfront. Will you have played KJo the same way? I the hand played pretty standard, too bad you missed some value on the turn.Hand 3:
There’s always in overcard when we raise a big hand. I’m okay with your fold here. AQ seems to have a bad rep as well.Hand 4:
So I’m learning about “value-owning” and have been using your advice and at peace with the fact that I may not always win when I value-bet. So, I would make a bet here for value, targeting a weaker Q or 10x. I doubt the button has a flush here, even though you don’t have any blockers. Bet-Fold is in order here. How’d I do? The suspense is killing me!Hand 5:
Nice Fold! That is a lot of preflop action for middle-pairs. However, those are pretty light hands given the action. Must be an amazing game.Hand 6:
Preflop is pretty standard. Floating the flop, I guess there a lot of turn-cards that would allow you to continue: Any spade or any small card to draw a to a straight. The 2s gives you tons of equity, and it appears the villain has an overpair, Jx hand, or even a heart draw. I would call the turn and jam the river if your draws come in. It also looks like you may have a busted heart-draw as well, so your hand is somewhat disguised.Hand 7:
The flop bet is pretty small. 30 into a pot of 80. Where you trying to get value from an over-pair or top-pair? Villain probably had over when he called the turn. Leading all three streets on this board is scary for us amateurs, but thinking about action, villain calling in position, doesn’t show any strength at all. Glad your hand held up!Hand 8:
OMG this hand is so familiar, it’s scary. I was thinking he had AQ before the review!Hand 9:
The run-good. Your all over this board on the flop. I think you have 15 out here, 12 if we assume villain has A10. Its strange to have a pro donk bet into the PFR, I would think a pro would know better. The pot on the turn, I guess is about 90ish and he makes close to a pot size bet. The pot is offering 3-1 on a call, but 5-1 if we include implied odds. I think I can see your reasons to call here. Nice overbet and getting max value for your hand.To be honest, I would’ve probably folded on the turn. Because I would wuss out as usual. You played this well, I hope I can get into a spot like this as well and really work on this aspect of my game.
Hand 10:
Sick hand. Glad the heart didn’t come. Can I ask what you would’ve done if the heart did come? Would you have folded if your bet faced a lot of aggression on this board? I had a spot similar to this with A4ss in position. Villain checked-shoved all-in on the river when he boated up and I made the nut flush. I couldn’t get away from my hand.Hand 11:
Do you have fold-equity here against his draw? Assuming he did have a draw? Against a random hand from the straddle, I think he’s weighted to two-pair as well. The overcard came and did not slow him down. I don’t believe he has a draw here either. Bart talks about how an overcard on the turn, is a “truth serum” and if he had a marginal hand, he may have checked.I’ve seen my player pool show up with 2 pair or better 100% of the time, when the turn is an overcard. They also check their marginal hands and draws 100% of time as well.
I think folding to his continued aggression on the turn is +EV here. =)
Hand 12:
This is a tough one. You picked up more equity on the turn. This villain has shown a tendency to play his draws fast. He makes a pot size raise on the turn. Laying you 3-1 on a call. I would discount Q8 if he likes his draws, I would think he’d play smaller gappers. Was there a possible flush? If he’s holding a Q, he’s chopping with you.This one is difficult for me to determine. There’s a lot of hands that crush your over-pair on this street. 2-pair is likely, if he likes to play drawing hands. Set’s are also likely too, and I’ve seen a pattern, where people wait till the turn to play their flop sets fast.
I think given the odds. I would call and evaluate the river. If we whiff the river, probably find a fold to further aggression from the villain.
Bonus hand:
Are you kidding me?! Wow. A clear fold here preflop. What an action board though for a 4bet pot! The SPR going into the flop is pretty low. Some would call this a nitty fold, I call it great play.Hand 1 – Saw a pro make a similar raise (straddle pot, two limpers, raised to $65). Got two callers, so I like my sizing.
Hand 2 – From UTG I think KQo is the bottom of my raising range, maybe KJ. Would play it the same way.
Hand 4 – He was grabbing for chips before I could do anything. I check-called a bet of about $80. He had KQ.
Hand 6 – I actually think I misplayed this one. He bets turn for $50, I raise to $175. I guess I’m trying to get 88, 99, TT, AK to fold. He jams for $230 more. I call knowing I have a ton of outs. He has KK, so my Ace was good if it hit. I miss. Might make this a call in hand for Bart.
Hand 7 – Guessing he had a T he couldn’t fold. Flopped trips with good kicker, gotta get value.
Hand 9 – His donk bet led me to believe he had top pair, so I thought my A was good as well. The way the board ran out a T was still top. Probably could have gotten a tad more value, but I’m happy with it.
Hand 10 – I wasn’t going to go nuts because there were 2 really good players in the hand, and I kind of had a feeling one of the boated up.
Hand 11 – If he was on a draw, I probably could have made him fold. I could have made it $400 and repped QQ+. That why I think he had 2 pair because that A didn’t scare him. I called flop because he would never put me on a 6 here. I folded turn because I figured he may have a 6 with a pair and I was drawing thin.
Hand 12 – I called. Figured he could have a lot of pair + draw, and my overpair would be good. He had T9 and turn 2 pair on the river. Not a slam dunk call, but overall I don’t hate it. He could have had QJ, 89, or something like that. I don’t think Q8 is in his calling range, didn’t see him show more than a 2 gapper unless it was both broadway. Against a lot of players this is a more likely a fold. But this guy is a pro and his range is much wider.
Bonus hand – It wasn’t an easy fold, as the button had been active. But it was almost a snap 4-bet – He grabbed his stack of green right away and started counting the raise. I think best case scenario is he had AKs.
Hand 2: Would you suggest playing a better game post-flop to raise in with these hands?
Hand 4: Yah! I was kinda right!
Hand 6: I don’t think stacking-off with villain is wrong. Versus his over-pair and your 15-outs, I think thats an even money proposition, eh, but what do I know. I’ll be there when you call in
Hand 2 – That’s a bit of an advanced question for me. I know my game well enough to know I can raise here and maneuver post flop just fine. You just have to know what spots will get you in trouble and be careful there. While there were a few spots at this table, there were also several good players and several pros, so I wanted to not have such a predictable open range. That’s why I opened this here.
Hand 6 – It’s not calling the shove I wonder about, it’s my turn raise. I’m just not sure if this is the right play, and I wonder what I accomplish by this. He probably folds AK/AQ (unless he has the flush draw), KQ if for some reason he’s double barreling that, maybe 88, 99, and TT? AJ, QQ+ aren’t folding, so I’m wondering if I’m committing chips here for no reason. The flush draw is backdoor so I should still get paid, and the straight is completely hidden. I doubt he leads an Ace (and he said he was worried about the Ace high flush draw) so I don’t get paid much there. Hand 9 was similar in I was going for the backdoor draw, but the hand played very different in that I was PFR and then the player donked twice.
I guess I just think this may have been better as a call since I probably get paid in the end anyways.
Just listened to you call-in into CLP. Such great information!
So the villains bet-size kinda dictated whether a bluff-raise with your hand was warranted. Villain bet 50 into the pot, a little less than 1/2 pot bet. So a large raise may have gotten him off a hand like Jx QQ. However, if villain would’ve bet close to pot, it would be a call for you.
It’s very interesting. The line you take is a reaction of the opponent, but because you are in position, you also dictate the tempo of the hand as well.
This reminds of me all the times villains bluff-raise me in the beginning. I was betting too small into a pot and looked too weak.
Hope they dry out the casino soon!
Hey John! I appreciate your comments on the forums. I’m gonna try to talk a bit about strategy and fundamentals. This doesn’t mean that any play is correct or incorrect 100% of the time. There’s also the factor that you have a better read on the table & you know what you can get away with.
Hand 1: We have to standardize our open. We hardly wanna play any hand from SB, and when we do, we wanna be the aggressor. Normally, after 20 minutes/ 1-2 orbits, you get a feel on what the appropriate open is. If it’s 3bb then we add 1 bb to every limper. Besides, we need to take under consideration the stack sizes. I do open larger vs straddles because they defend on higher frequency. So $70 is not always bad. Sometimes you’d have to even open for more, it’s table-dependent imo.
Another thing, we get dealt premiums/ top 5% hands only 5% of the time according to my math 😀 so if we’re getting dealt 26 hands/hour, we would have gotten 1 premium holding. If we are opening 16% (that includes some KQo combos) SB against two limps, we would have to have a portion of our range that we’re gonna open/fold a portion to open/call a portion to open/4-bet and these ranges should be set and studied off the table and we deviate from it should we need to. Some recs would interpret a large open as a premium regardless of the situation, so we don’t wanna loose them when we do have a premium.
Hand 2: I would personally fold pre. Again, I’m not at the table and idk if it’s profitable to open it. This is imo a perfect board to check OOP. K66 villain can have a K a 6 all pocket pair lower than JJ and A-high floats (AT and AJ) specifically, all backdoors QJ suited specifacally. Our perceived range is optimal and we hit top pair. We can have KK AA AK QQ JJ TT AQ KQ suited. When we c-bet every time we connect with the board, we allow villain to play against us perfectly. They can fold every time or use your capped UTG open range to put you in uncomfortable situations. This could have been played as check/call all along because villain (if deep) can value bet worse like 88 would bet/check/call here or bluff. When we c-bet/check/bet. We allowed villain to see all 5 cards charging the min and allowed him to comfortably fold.
Hand 3: without stack sizes, hard to say anything. I have no problem with folding the turn. I have no problem c-betting flop. we have to bet some of our middle pairs. This is a great candidate.Hand 4: This is (with appropriate stack sizes) a mandatory 3-bet. The problem with not 3-betting is that our hand looks a lot weaker than what it actually is. This could be an advantage when we know it, but as I’m reading, I get the feeling that you don’t know that you’re actually slow playing a monster. Btn can be bluffing without knowing that they’re bluffing which adds many combos of hands that are gonna take a vlauy line. Once we don’t 3-bet, we must check/raise flop (2.5x at least {65*2+1/2*pot=$185 all day}). We don’t have a heart, the A of heart is not on the board. It’s very hard for us to be beat. Btn is gonna bet/fold a lot of hands and bet/call with worse. With the appropriate stack sizes we should be setting up a turn or river jam. As played though, we should check/call river because our hand is under repped.
Hand 5: No problems at all with folding mid pairs pre. When playing deep enough we should call against specific villains e.g. players who don’t c-bet often or players who aren’t bluff-happy.
Hand 6: We caught the best turn in the deck. We call to play fit or fold on the river. any card that doesn’t improve us on the river, is bad for us to bluff (screen all possible rivers and think about it, we’re getting the old sigh-call all day). However, we should lead if checked to on river aces and raise all straights or flushes of course.
Hand 7: Fold pre. Stack sizes are important in every hand. We basically got lucky. I like bet/bet/bet. Your reasoning for opening this hand should not even cross your mind. According to the logical argument of the reason, we should also fold good cards because we look too spewy and playing lots of hands 😀 right? The table image is circumstantial. We will fold bad cards and open good cards. I do the same sometimes and idk why, but I’m an amazing player off the table and just gonna sound smart here 😀
Hand 8: Congrats!
Hand 9: love the way it was played. I like raising turn too. Stack sizes are missing.
Hand 10: standard.
Hand 11: fold pre
Hand 12: fold. We would fold all higher pairs here especially QQ because we’re blocking many bluffs. This is a two pair+ and if not, it is okay to get bluffed here because this is rarely a bluff.
Crazy bonus hand: Great fold. I like 3-betting JJ in this spot, again, against correct stack sizes, it’s just a bad timing.
keep it up man.
That’s for the comments, Yazzie. Sorry about no stack sizes, but this being a spread limit game it just never came up that much. I think in the 8 hour session I was only all-in twice and called an all-in once. The stacks were almost always deeper than the $500 max bet.
I sometimes open hands like K7/K6 so my pre-flop raising range isn’t perceived as too tight. There were several pros at this table, so I feel the need to be aggressive and open light so that I get paid off when I am raising my premiums. If you’re only raising your top 5-10% of hands, you’ll lose value to good players who notice that sort of thing. I think it’s a good idea to have some light opens people tend to call you lighter. K6/K7 suited are among the few hands I’ll open light with.
No idea why I didn’t 3-bet AQdd to a button raise. No idea how I missed that.
Hand 12 – This was a very player dependent call. Against pretty much everyone else at the table this was a fold, but this player was a pro and had been 3-betting and 4-betting light, as well as got caught bluffing several times. I thought QJ was very much in his range (even though I blocked it) as well as 89 turning his straight draw turned pair into a bluff.
You hand made it on CLP youtube! CLP
I have so many hands! I don’t know which to discuss!
Maybe the first hand I observed at my stake. Early street aggression. Or maybe the hand where my opponent checked-raised two streets with his overpair. I’m so nervous!
I’d pick something more recent. You advanced your game since you started posting here, so ask him something that will help advance your game more.
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