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This hand is from the 5/5 Meetup game with Brad and Andrew in Austin, TX.
Background:
All the players in this hand have been playing together for about 4 hours. V1 is a thinking player from out of town (just here for the MUG) and has been pretty active in position but very tight EP. V2 is also a solid, thinking regular that I have played with a few times in recent months, we have not played any really significant pots together.Hero: starts hand with $1260
V1: starts with $1100
V2: covers bothWe are 10 handed, V1 opens UTG to $25 (a standard open at this table) and V2 in UTG+2 pretty quickly 3bets to $100. I am next to act and look down at AcAs!!
Decision Point 1:
I take a minute to think about ranges here. My read is that the UTG open and EP 3-Bet are mostly indicative of two strong ranges, particularly V2 – I see his range as TT+, AQs+ and possibly tighter then that given the UTG open. I briefly debate flatting as the cold 4bet in this exact spot against these villains feeling like my hand is face up. I feel like my range looks like AA, KK just given all the EP action. I decide on a 4bet to $300, giving my opponents room to jam with the illusion of fold equity and building a pot against these likely strong ranges.What do you guys think about my 3 bet size? Do you see any merit to flatting in position in this spot? (possibly looking for a 4bet from UTG some percentage of the time)
Decision Point 2:
Here’s is where it gets weird. V1 has AdKd, tanks and elects to flat. V2 has QsQc and elects to flat as well!? I don’t like either of their calls personally given ranges and stack sizes but wanted to pose it to the group. Thoughts?Decision Point 3:
Flop is Jc5c2s, it is checked to me and I elect to jam. I pondered a smaller bet and figured a small bet of like 400-450 looks even stronger and I might elect to jam AcKc if I elected to 4 bet that hand (probably would not ever in this spot).Decision Point 4:
V1 folds and V2 tank calls. Personally, I think this a horrible spot for V2 with exactly QQ, but the problem is he never arrives on this flop with a better hand than QQ unless he called the 4 bet with JJ. Thoughts on this call?Result: We ran it twice and he drilled a Q on the first board to chop it up.
– Phil
I think you played the hand fine, as did the villains. There are a few different things you (and they) can do, but not anything drastically different.
I like the 4-bet size. You could size down to like $240-250 if you want to try to induce a shove or get both players to call, or you can size up to $350-400 and try to target QQ/KK from V2. But I think $300 is fine. The problem is, like you said, given their positions and your 4-bet, you’re range is super strong. Very few players can represent anything but QQ+ here as 4-bets pre are almost always monsters.
Post-flop, I’m fine with the jam. They shouldn’t have a flush draw here since you have Ac. Only had to worry about is JJ. Only hands that should call is JJ, QQ, and KK (obviously more combos of QQ and KK). You pretty much have a pot-sized bet. Agree that less looks super strong, while check or jam you can have the flush draw.
Villains play – pre-flop: Both calling pre are fine, but tough given your range. V1 definitely wants to call, but with V2 behind who can potentially jam it doesn’t make it a slam-dunk call. Chances are he’s either 1. at best up against another AK, or 2. dominated by KK or AA. He can’t really fold here, but he’s not happy to call either.
V2 is in the same dilemma. On one hand, folding QQ pre isn’t great, but he’s also likely at best up against two overs or at worst an over pair. He’s kind of making a decision here as to whether or not he’s going with the hand post-flop if no A or K shows up. He’s not getting a great price to set-mine, even with V1’s call, but I think you have to call the $200 into $700.
Post-flop – I think pretty standard for both of them. V1 has to fold, no pair or draw outside runner-runner straight. I think V2 decided pre that he was going with it if it came all unders. The fact that there was a flush draw and you could be jamming that leads towards the call.
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