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Alright, I’ve got another slew of hands here. I’ll skip some from the session, but I was getting decent cards so in 3.5 hours I had played a decent number of hands. My opening size keeps changing as I was trying to figure the table out…sometimes a $6 open was getting only 1 or 2 callers, sometimes $12 was getting 5 callers. Some of the hands in the middle I included just to put a feel for the table and my range out there, I don’t think they play out super differently.
Again, any input is appreciated, even if you only check out 1 hand. I know its a lot, but it seems better than the 4ish individual posts it would have been.
1) J10 spades on button, I open to $6, 3 callers. Flop 843 two clubs, checks around. Turn is Q, I bet $10, 1 caller. River is K, he donks $15 I fold.
2) KhQc UTG, I open to $7, 3 callers. Flop is 1085 all hearts, I bet $10, only SB calls. Turn is a brick, checks through. River is another blank, checks through again. He has 77s and takes it. Bluff this one?
3) Limped with 33s UTG, made a set and won a small pot
4) J10 off complete in SB, win that with a check-raise on turn after turning a flush
5) A5 suited in CO, open to $11 all fold
6) 10s in MP, open to $10, get 1 super-tight caller. flop is 873, he donk-shoves for $10 (yea, only $10). I snap, board runs out 4K rainbow, I’m good7) KJ off in MP, I open to $10, get 2 callers. Flop is J7Q rainbow. I check this, planning to check-raise against the guy on my left. Turns out he only has $37 left, which he shoves in. Additionally, the other guy behind him calls (I think for a smidge less). They have both been a bit tighter, so I don’t think this is with air. I fold. Board runs out KJ, so I miss boating up. Guy who shoved had 55s and won. So that stung….Normally I’d have peeled one or check-raised, but he had so little, and a caller behind, I just assumed I was crushed.
8) AJ off in late position, I open to $20 over a straddle, get 2 callers. Flop is 5106 two suited. I check-fold to a $60 jam that was called before me. board runs out 10k, pocket 77 jam wins over pocket 22 call
9) K10 clubs, i call a 12 open. 4 to a flop of 1022, 1 club. Checks around. Turn is A clubs, I bet $20. Guy on my right then check-shoves for $52. I snap it off. This guy never has 2 here. River is an off 8. He reluctantly shows his hand, which is A6 offsuit. Gross. Is this pretty standard here? Maybe a slightly larger turn bet, although I did not expect a check-raise on this.
10) QQ UTG+2, Open to $10. Get 1 caller, then SB 3-bets to $23. I 4-bet to $100 and they all fold. Should I size down my raise here? I rounded 23 to 25, then did 3+1 it to account for the other caller…The more I think about it, I’m ok with a 4-bet, but I do not have a 4-bet bluffing range, so while I don’t get sucked out on this way, I’ll never win a big pot. I should mix this in with calling the 3-bet sometimes, stay balanced.
11) 10s in HJ, open to $10, 4 callers. Flops is J84 rainbow, I bet $20 only 1 calls. turn is 5, checks around. River is a K, he leads for $20 I fold. he claims he had top-two
12) black 9s on the button, open to $10, 4 callers. Flop is KK8, two hearts. SB donks for $15, only I call. Turn is 5 hearts, checks through, river is another heart, checks through. He has KJ off no hearts. I put him on a king, but didn’t really think about bluffing at this hand – I assumed that I would never get called by worse here…fair assumption?
Last two are against the same opponent. Dude had apparently had a huge hot streak earlier, then a huge cold streak, and was now getting hot again (two hands, in a row, runner-runner flush and straight to win). He was playing almost every hand, unless there was a 3-bet (it’s $1/$2, there’s almost no 3-betting). He almost never opened. He also was a huge calling station – he would call down with 3rd pair, or when he was clearly beat (A-3 off on an AA5710 board, ended up calling all-in against a tighter player…who obviously had a much better A). So his range is infinite
13) KJ off in MP, call a straddle. 5 to a flop, King high all clubs. I check-call Villain’s $10 bet (not the straddler). Turn is a blank, he bets $25, I call again. River is another club, he announces all-in (about $250), and I fold. He shows A9 clubs.
14) I open AJ off to $10 on the button, 4 callers. Flop is A810 rainbow, Villain in EP donks for $15, I raise to $50 and he calls. Turn is rainbow 3, he checks to me, I jam for $47, he calls. River is a Q, he turns over AK. I don’t hate my play on this, although maybe just a call on the flop? Any other player and I’d have given credit for the A and called down, but its so easy to put this guy on a weak A, or even hands like 79 or a 10. Who doesn’t open with AK?
Cheers all!
Hey Hans,
1)If you had 3 callers that means there was at least 1 limp. You should open to a bigger size (at least $10). Where were the callers seated? This will affect what hands they’re probably calling with preflop. If you had a backdoor flushdraw on the flop I wouldn’t mind a C-bet, but otherwise I think the turn bet is fine and fold is fine too.
2)How many players are there? I think if there’s 8-10 you should just fold this preflop from UTG. I like the smaller flop bet, and think you should probably continue as a bluff most of the time here on the turn. You can check back your Ace high flushdraws if you’d like because they have more showdown value and keep your checking range strong.
3) You should probably fold this UTG if you’re playing with more than 6 players.
4) Not much detail to discuss
5)Fine open
6)Totally normal7) Where are the callers? Also why do you want to check-raise with a middling hand here? You want to save your check raises for your very strong hands (pocket 7s or Js) along with some bluffs (open-ender, 2 overs w/backdoor flush-draw, etc). Folding is fine after the shove and a call.
8)Seems fine to me
9)What position are you in and where was the raise from? This hand could be 3-bet sometimes. I think checking the turn is best since the Ace will help the preflop raiser a lot more than you. The call is fine after your bet.
10) This hand seems fine to me. 4-bet size is also fairly normal. If the SB never 3-bets then I can see calling more often since it’s such a small raise.
11)With 4 callers I think I prefer a check on the flop. If it were HU then a small flop bet makes more sense.
12)With 4 callers from the button there would have been limpers. You should raise larger from the button in general, especially with limpers. Normally a donk-lead here seems to be an 8 but the call/rest of the hand seems fine to me.
13) If it’s a full table I can see folding this hand to an UTG straddle, but if you’re playing it you should definitely raise. Rest of the hand seems fine.
14) Should open larger with limpers. That’s an awkward raise size because it leaves you with about a 33% pot size bet on the turn. I’m personally not sure if you should raise with this hand or flat, but I would guess that calling might be better.
Definitely let me know if you disagree with anything here; happy to discuss.
Thanks!
1. Fine.
2. I would bet at least the turn, and maybe the river, since you have the king of hearts. Good card to bluff with, and you have two overs and a flush draw.
3-6. All fine.
7. Why are you planning to check-raise here and not bet with second pair? Doesn’t make much sense. You want to check-raise your strong hands, your big draws, and bluffs. Middle pair is just a bet or a call and evaluate. As played, I think a fold is okay since it’s hard to think you’re ahead here against two players.
8. Fine.
9. Why no flop bet? Top pair, great kicker. Not sure why you’re checking here. And the Ace is a bad turn card if V has an Ace, since you’re dead to a 10. Just bet the flop and take it down. You’re trying to get a little too tricky by checking top pair.
10. I don’t see much wrong with a size. It does seem big because it is 50bb pre-flop, which is pretty rare. You really don’t see that too often without a straddle. $100 pre-flop at a 1-2 is a big bet relative to the size of the game. I think you need to make the raise at least $80, so $100 isn’t that bad. Only issue is you’re probably only getting called by AK+ or QQ+, but I like the raise to take it down there.
11-12. Fine.
13. Fine. You win money from this villain by making strong hands, not calling down light.
14. Again, why check raise? You’re strong, but not that strong. Just call the donk and let him fire. And you said yourself this guy rarely raises pre, and is a station, so expect him to have strong hands in his range as well. You’re probably getting stacked here anyways, but the check-raise too much on the flop. Just bet-bet-bet here (or I guess call-call-call here).
1) Honestly I don’t remember. Pretty sure it was both blinds and a MP
2) 6 or 7 handed at this point – definitely a seat or two open, and this couple had smoke breaks every 45 minutes or so.
3) Yeah I know, I just couldn’t resist. I like mining for those small sets
7) I believe it was the BB and then the CO – it was checked to me, I checked, and he bet. The player in general was relatively tight, but he had been lamenting being card dead for a while (he’s a friendly guy). So I was expecting him to try and force something (which he did, I just didn’t catch it lol). I feel like I could have led on this – I have a pair, and its a decent flop for my range.
9) The raise came from EP/MP, I was about the HJ. The original raiser did not do the check-raise.
10) The SB seemed a bit looser of a player, but I don’t remember many 3-bets from him.
12) I probably should have sized up a bit. I was struggling to make sense of opening sizes this session, it was wonky what would get called and what wouldn’t.
13) Yeah, pretty sure it was 8- or 9-handed at this point.
14) Again, I agree, just wasn’t thinking properly on my opens. I also didn’t think through my play too well post-flop – I made the check-raise based off his bet without thinking about what I would have left behind. I agree that, if I am going to raise, it should be to about 35 or 40, but a flat seems a better option. In the end, I don’t think it would have changed much, I never would have given him credit for a premium holding
Thanks!!
Sorry John, responded before I saw your post!
7) Yeah, I really should have, was just trying to be fancy I guess.
9) Honestly I don’t remember. You’re right though, I definitely should be betting it.
10) I know its big (Actually got a verbal exclamation from another dude at the table). I think I may flat next time, but I don’t mind taking it down pre-flop.
14) Yeaup, I should have called-down. I just did not believe him at all, and thought I could push him off whatever weak pair he had.
Thanks!!
For #10, if you think he’s only 3 -betting AK,QQ+ then you should flat bc you only have about 40% equity. If you see him throwing in some other pairs, Ax suited or suited connectors then 4-betting is completely fine.
Thanks for your comments! It seems you just need to spend some extra time thinking about the hands outside the table (like we all do) to get more comfortable with some of these spots.
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