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Playing 3-5 at my local casino and this band developed. My effective stack is approximately 1k, and opponents was about 800.
I am on the button w 8/9D, one limper in MP, CO RAISES to 20 and I raise to 3 bet to $55 on button. BB calls and initial raiser folds. HU TO FLOP
Jh/8h/8s
BB checks and I bet $75, he check raises to $300. I tank for 30 seconds or so and jam, he tanks and folds K/K FACE UP. Was there more value in calling the turn, or do you think this was the best play?
I think in a vacum is a good play if you have balanced 3b range on btn you will have some bluffs,there to and some worse value hands,but in this spot i think if you call the raise he will put you on qq,a-j,maybe 10-10 because its cutoff btn spot pflop on wider 3b range so in this spot i think call has more value and see what developes on the turn ,so thats my opinion i think call its the best play.gl all at the tables.
IMO I think you made the right play seeming that the flop was pretty wet with the two hearts and possible straight draws even though you did have a blocker with the 9. That being said you may have been able to get more value and get a 2nd street of value seeming that you were on the button. If you had been out of position then I think your play was a great play. Being on the button I think is what makes it tricky because if you do just flat call he still has quite a few outs and if a heart hits or a 10 hits it might make you think a little bit more if he is betting in to you. If it was me I think I would have played it the same way as you did seeming that it was a huge overbet and you still got good value on your hand. Plus seeming that he was basically only $800 effective and was only getting a 1to1 call he made a good fold here. I think with a flop as wet as that was and getting decent value with the raise and then the check raise on the flop it was good to take it down there.
There’s really not a whole lot for villain to have here on paired flops. The best draw is 9Thh and you block 9T, and depends on history with the villain on what you think he’s cold-calling a 3b OOP with.
If you plug in a range of hands he might C/RR flop of: KK-JJ, AKs, AJs, AJo, KQs, JTs, T9s, 98s, JTo, T9o, 98o which is about as wide I would go here, can probably even remove the 20 combos of offsuit hands I think, your hand is still 77% against that range, he can’t even have like AJhh here so pair plus FD are eliminated.
I don’t really mind either option here of raising all-in or flatting. When he C/R more than 3x to $300 this sizing usually would indicate he’s willing to play for stacks so jamming isn’t that bad. However as stated before we crush his range and I would think he jams most turns having so little behind so flatting and getting it in on the turn is an option as well. Your 3b jam on the flop looks and is pretty nutted so it might get some 1 pair type hands like KK QQ AJ JTs (27 combos) to fold which might have believed they were good if you flat. I think in the moment I would typically think people rarely check-raise to $300 with $450 behind and intend on folding and probably jam flop.Interesting hand. I really don’t mind it either way. I’m shocked he folded for $450 more after putting in $350 already. He should’ve 4-bet preflop. I’m not sure why he didn’t.
My first thought is that if you’re going to 3-bet, you need to make it much larger. You made it less than 3x and there was a limper in there as well. You should be making it $65-$70.
On the flop, he’s not going to have many 9’s in his range (if any) when he cold calls a 3-bet from the big blind. I expect him to have maybe AK/AQ, QQ, JJ, and TT hands. That’s a pretty standard cold 3-bet calling range. When he check raises I think he’ll have AK/AQhh, QQ, and JJ. We’re beating all of those except JJ and those hands should mostly be calling off after check raising. I know that the opponent has KK here but this should be an extreme anomaly. In general, I’d shove like you did. There’s so much in the pot already.
The opponent played this hand about as poorly as possible. He can’t be getting tricky by not 4-betting and then check-raise/fold when he has drastically under-repped his hand and is getting 3:1 on a call.
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