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I ended up in a weird spot at Excalibur this last weekend.
Playing 1/2 live. There was a button straddle which messed up my math a little bit preflop.
Table Dynamic: There’s a couple guys at the end of the table who have been playing super tight. SB is one of them. He’s a reg, and is pretty deep stacked (500$). BB is a somewhat loose player. He’s pretty easy to get two streets of value from with most made hands when he’s on draws. He’s a little tricky. He’s limped and slow played aces twice, since the aces cracked promo is pretty decent.
UTG+1 (1 seat to my left) are both loose tourist types. Work buddies. They are limping every hand, and calling multiple streets. I’ve gotten some good value from both of them, but wiffed a big draw against one of them. I’ve been at the table for about 4 hours, played pretty TAG, although I’m loosening up my ranges pre-flop a little bit, because i’m able to catch them holding the bag when I turn or river a flush A LOT of the time. This has happened 3 times thus far. I’ve been playing my flush draws pretty passively. Sometimes raising on the flop with the draw, but checking turn when I hit it. And letting them bet river, before check raising them. I’m about even after whiffing a big nut flush draw vs loose MP.
Button Straddles. SB and BB both call 5$. I’m UTG with KdTd. I raise to 20$. Loose MP, SB, and BB are the only callers. I’ve got about 170 behind.
80$ 4 ways. Flop comes 3d, 7d, 9c. SB donks for 60$. BB folds. This looks pretty weak to me. I think he might have a set here, but that seems unlikely based on his preflop call, 77 or 99 seem like the only hands he could have and I think he 3bets 99 sometimes. He 3! shoved JJ into a short stacked AA a little earlier in the SB. So the only good hand I put him on is 77 or 79s (spades, hearts). He could easily have a worse flush draw here or pair plush flush draws. JQ, JT, 9T, 98, etc. I think just calling here is terrible. Leaves 110$ behind and a pot of 200$. a 1/2 size pot bet is going in every time. I think folding is two week with two overs and a (nutish) flush draw is pretty weak. I opt for a shove. I shove it all in there, 170$. MP Folds.
And the SB snap calls me. So I’m not feeling very good about my hand, but know I’ve got some equity still in a flush that will be likely good if I hit.
Turn and River brick out. SB turns over 35 of spades. I got snapped off by bottom pair. Feels bad. I’m trying to think if I could have done anything differently here, but I don’t really think I could. KTd is just too strong there to fold it seems.
Yeah getting called down with such a crap hand like that is mentally defeating. I think you probably played that alright. If you’re going to get picky about how you played it, going over preflop might be your best bet of changing things up. However, nothing seemed out of logic. Just real unlucky. However, that is the kind of people you want at your table. Super loose calls like that’ll be super profitable for you in the long run. Good luck!
Reload and don’t leave the table until he does. Take note that you can’t bluff him and instead take him to value town. Even a 2 street hand like TP2K is now a 3 street hand against him. Yes, you will run into better hands, but if you’re properly rolled for the game just get in there and ride the variance.
As for the hand, I like your raise but I might have gone up a little against a button straddle and two callers; $30-35 seems right (3×$5+$10 for the callers+$5-$10 for being UTG).
On the flop I like the jam. Against his hand you have 15 outs (any ◇ + any K or T) twice, making you a slight favorite on the flop. You got it in good.
Check out Red Chip Poker’s Fold Equity Calculator. This hand is profitable even if he never folds 5-3.
YEah I like the play too.
When i saw villain’s hand, i was like 😳 and went back to see if he had some sort of backdoor equity, net even!
So yeah, your K and T were live in addition to your fd. Plus the board could have ran double paired and counterfieted him making your K high a winner. Or even a runner runner straight.
Too bad he held :/Thanks for the gut check folks. I’ve been wracking my brain a little bit about this hand, but hearing outside objective views helps. I think i made the right play. Only real mistake is the misclick pre-flop, not realizing both SB and BB had called the straddle. Thought I was facing just the straddle and the blinds, which i thought had folded. Once I realized I couldn’t bet more since I had already pushed across the line.
In a loose game I would be cautious about playing a drawing hand such as K10s – not even a strong drawing hand at that – OOP and raising it up utg. So long as there aren’t too many 3bets pf it’s ok but I still think borderline, especially if the pot is likely to go multiway.
You said that the SB was a super tight reg. Limping then flatting your raise with 35s and then proceeding to snap off with bottom pair doesn’t seem to fit that description of him? Did I misread something?
Flop was well played – I wouldn’t expect many folds from the sb after he donk leads into 3 other players for 3/4 pot but against a large range of holdings you hold a good chunk of equity. Reload and get back after it.
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