Flopped nuts – did I play it poorly?

[Sugarmaan]

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Hey everyone,

Playing 1/2 $100 max buyin. Just wanted your opinions on this hand. Looking back I can already see a couple mistakes;
1.) Not 3-betting more preflop
2.) Not betting more on flop.
Having said that though with everyone else on the table being nits and only one player left to act of concern being the bb I think the 3bet pre isn’t the worst.

I figured by him checking to me on both turn and river he didn’t have a boat, as 1/2 players tend to bet when they make their hands, and he didn’t seem like the type to put in a wizardly trap.

I happened to be called very light here on the river, but do you think in general, against a more passive player, this is the correct bet to make on the river?

Thanks!

• This topic was modified 7 years, 2 months ago by Sugarmaan.

[Chuck M]

I like the 3bet pf, it’s true that you made it a little small, but you’re in position. Maybe a 3bet around 30-33 would’ve been better, but again, it was you who played those villains, so maybe you had reads on them, knowing who would call or fold no matter the sizing.

Betting halfpot in a 3bet pot is pretty standard, plus your in position, but it’s also true that it’s a pretty wet board, it probably hits villain’s calling range, so you’ll get value by betting a bit more.

And I like your river bet. You’re not just gonna get called by fullhouse (most of them would’ve lead the river, fearing a check back). Jx, AK, KQ, Kx maybe.
Plus it might look like a busted flush draw, so that might get you a bit lighter calls.

Nh

[Sugarmaan]

Thanks for the feedback, Chuck.

I just figured blocking both JQ and AJ, with J10 and JK both beating me meant his Jx range that calls a 3bet preflop was pretty limited in terms of hands we beat. But as you say, would be shocked if he turned over a boat after checking both turn and riv.

Good call on the fd, didn’t even consider that.

[Old Dog]

Jake,

One other factor to consider in this hand is that by the time you bet the flop, you already had more than a third of your stack in. This leaves you with only one pot-sized bet at best, and with that stack-to-pot ratio, you (and your opponent) had little choice but to get it in and hope. Three betting pre-flop to a quarter of your stack will let you get away form really bad flops, but the next bet commits you. With the commitment there, it doesn’t matter whether you get it in on the turn or the or the river, nor who puts it in first. Even if you know that the villain’s three bet calling range is precisely aces and kings, you’re still 50/50 to win the pot at the end, and pot odds say call. The other possibilities he has (like the flush draw) make it a mandatory call. Knowing that your opponent is pot committed can help you to assign him a little bit larger range than if the stacks were deeper, and therefore make these pot-committed bets and calls easier.

[Steven Young]

I think your line was fine. Best to 3b AQ off in pos than just call. Maybe missed some value on the turn. Over all it was fine.

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