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  • #4331
    Ethan
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    I have 8, 9 of hearts and limp from the cutoff. We got 7 ways to flop of 10,J,Q. Ep bets 20.
    Everyone except button has folded to the bet.
    I call hoping to bring in the button player.
    The button jams all in for 17 additional dollars.
    Ep calls.
    Button and Ep are friends ep feels bad about taking buttons money but this call signifies that ep has a hand too strong to let go even though he doesn’t want to bust his friend on the button.
    I see the 17 raise and I raise it 45$ more. Ep has 300 left in his stack.
    I weight Ep’s range towards two pairs.
    Ep folds which he hinted at was A,Q.
    The rest is irrelevant but the turn and river are bricks and the button shows king, 9 for a higher straight than me and I loose the pot.

    Did I play this hand wrong?! I really thought ep’s range was weighted towards two pair combos and I wanted to play for stacks.

    Thanks for your help I really appreciate it.

    • This topic was modified 5 years, 5 months ago by Ethan.
    #4388
    Ethan
    Participant

    How didi I play it?

    #4391
    DeeKay
    Participant

    Weird hand. I assume he re-raise your $45 or shoved and you called.
    I’m not sure anything I say will change how this hand would have played out… think its just a pure cold deck. However, there are several hands you lose to or drawing to. K-9, A-K, and any set or two pair combo. Plus any King is drawing open ended.
    So first off… in the cutoff, you need to raise. You can’t limp in with that in position. Two reasons… one you want to show strength and get rid of the crappy hands, denying equity to crummy A-x, K-x, Q-x… and two, you want to start to build a pot if you should create equity in this hand. I don’t know if this player would have folded K-9 to a raise, but probably not. Once he raises his buddy, you should be a little concerned by this, as you were. there are two avenues to play… bet to deny equity and drawing hands, or pot control because he’s not folding, and this board is very very wet.

    What could have changed in how this played out is that if you raised, he might have been a little concerned that you have A-K and may have slowed down or not raised. I don’t know. You got cold decked for sure… but things could have played a little differently if you represented a bit more strength early in the hand

    • This reply was modified 5 years, 5 months ago by DeeKay.
    #4420
    Ethan
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    Hi Deekay,

    Thanks for your response but I think you are a bit confused on the hand. EP folded to my re raise of 45 additional dollars. It was the button who was already all in that had K, 9, (thats why I said the rest was irrelevant). And I was wondering if this re raise was a mistake? Did I show too much strength and scare my opponent off?

    #4421
    DeeKay
    Participant

    Ahh… I see. Well, given there was only another $17… he was sitting with only $39 to start the hand then it really doesn’t matter. Regardless of what you do and the range you put him on, your risk is only $39. But there is equity to deny as any 9 or K would be open ended. As I said, just a pure cold deck and glad your risk was limited by his stack. And of course you always have to be careful when you own the dummy end of the straight… even with two cards.

    #4429
    Ethan
    Participant

    Yes but there was a third player in the hand. And I was wondering if it was a mistake to re raise the 17$ shove after the third player called. Did I show too much strength and force the third player out. I’ll repaste hand history below. Thanks so much for helping me out, I really appreciate it.

    #4430
    Ethan
    Participant

    I have 8, 9 of hearts and limp from the cutoff. We got 7 ways to flop of 10,J,Q. Ep bets 20.
    Everyone except button has folded to the bet.
    I call hoping to bring in the button player.
    The button jams all in for 17 additional dollars.
    Ep calls.
    Button and Ep are friends ep feels bad about taking buttons money but this call signifies that ep has a hand too strong to let go even though he doesn’t want to bust his friend on the button.
    I see the 17 raise and I raise it 45$ more. Ep has 300 left in his stack.
    I weight Ep’s range towards two pairs.
    Ep folds which he hinted at was A,Q.
    The rest is irrelevant but the turn and river are bricks and the button shows king, 9 for a higher straight than me and I loose the pot.

    Did I play this hand wrong?! I really thought ep’s range was weighted towards two pair combos and I wanted to play for stacks.

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