Flopping Aces up, then overbet shoving the turn.

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  • #2252
    Yazzie
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    Hey guys.

    2/5 NL hand at a RoundxRound ($2000 cap) table. The is your typical action late Saturday night game. Table was very loose except for a couple of spots and 4 outta 9 players have reloaded including yours truly. Everybody was deep & we all straddled on the button.

    Villain#1 in this hand is the only tight player on the table. He’s a weekend regular & plays a super nitty range preflop in early position. He’s high-cards-heavy & plays straight up.

    Villain#2 is an early 30s rec who plays a lot, he might be a break-even player. He’s been at the table for less than 30 minutes & was nodding at the action kinda observing everybody.

    I was table captain & had a tag on my back, caught bluffing a couple of times betting with blockers. I adjusted to the action basically.

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    >I button straddled to $10
    >Blinds fold
    > Villain#1 in UTG opens to $30 (standard) his stack: $3000+
    > Villain#2 calls in HJ his stack: $1500 to start.
    > We’re on the button with Ac9c and we make it $120 our stack: $2400 to start.
    > Both make the call. pot is $367
    > Flop is Ah Qc 9h
    > They both check, we bet $180.
    > Villain#1 sigh folds, which is as good as showing his KK to me.
    > Villain#2 makes the call. Pot is $730
    > Turn is 6c. Viallin checks again.
    > With the effective stack being $1200 now (SPR 1.6), and villain is more weighted towards having a made hand (pair, two pair, sets) based on his over call pre knowing that villain#1 has a nitty range & the button is a crazy player & calling the flop. I decided to ship it all-in. I’m using my image as my opponents think I can do that with J10 with a flush draw, Q with a flush draw, AcXc.
    > Opponent tanked for a couple of minutes, then said “you’re not the guy to fold to” precisely what I wanted him to think. He made the call and Tabled AsKs instantly.
    > River is Qs and he wins the $3100 pot. I did not show.

    A couple of questions:

    What do you think of my 3-bet pre?
    What is my opponent’s range when he calls the flop?
    Did I turn my hand int a bluff on the turn?

    Thanks.

    • This topic was modified 6 years, 10 months ago by Yazzie.
    #2254
    John S
    Participant

    I don’t mind the 3-bet. Obviously it’s pretty light, but I don’t mind the aggression in position. There’s $60+ out there to win and you have a suited ace, if you get called it’s not the worst situation possible. It’s surprising you didn’t get 4-bet there given those hands, and it would have saved you money.

    Not sure how I would exactly range villain in this hand because I’m kind of surprised he didn’t 3-bet the flop himself. I don’t know if he was just playing tight because of the other villain or just looking to slowplay. One of those table dynamic things I guess. That said, I kind of range him how you tried to range yourself on the turn. He could have AQ (and he’s slowplaying to let you keep barrelling, but doubtful as the board is pretty connected), AJ, AT, KJ, JT, maybe even KT suited. It’s a connected board, so he can call with a lot here.

    I don’t think you turned your hand into a bluff, but you represented that. Really good board to shove on in my opinion. You could be ahead or drawing, and you polarized your range really well. You could easily have a set of aces or queens here the way it’s played as you’ve been the aggressor the entire hand. You got him to call based on your image and he got lucky.

    #2255
    Yazzie
    Participant

    Thanks John.

    You’re absolutely right about both of them not 4-betting me pre. It’s the table dynamic 100%. They were trapping as they’re almost guaranteed action. Villain#1 said after the hand that he had “the ace magnets.”
    I was shocked to see the AK suited as well. Kinda sucks cause I got called by the best hand that I’m ahead of. The fact that he almost folded on the turn leads me to think that I represented better than my actual hand, yet for value. Sets mainly as there’re two flush draws. I 3bet light with hands that I can make the nuts with, hands that flop well or suited A or K. It’s quite profitable as long as I stick to the plan and not get pulled into calling light post flop.

    I know that I got rivered, yet I’m not sure if this line (overbetting for value in general) makes sense.

    #2256
    John S
    Participant

    Yeah, I see what you’re saying now. I guess one question is how light is he going to call you? Is he calling AJ or AT here. What about KQ?

    That bet makes you look really strong (Aces up or sets) or on a draw/bluff. I think it’s a good play if you get him to call light, which him saying that you’re not the person to fold to makes it seem like he would have called you lighter than AK. Maybe not the best board to make this play on, but you got him to call with only 5 outs.

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