How do you open AA or KK in tournament in late position after a raise?

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  • #620
    John Carter
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    Please tell me what you would have done in my position:
    Playing in a WSOP tournament… 5000 chips to start… in first 4 levels I get AA 4 times and KK once every time in late position with a bet in front of me … With each opening hand I went all in and was never called. I had between 4000 and 6000 chips every time. Wondering what you all would do? My thinking now is to re-raise and hope for 1 caller. What would you do? Thanks Brad for this website and your excellent videos!

    #621
    Ryan
    Participant

    can you give a bit more info what were the blind levels?

    also just a normal raise size would be best im guessing

    #631
    Steven Young
    Participant

    Yeah blind lvls matter and how many big blinds you have. If you are pushing with 100 big blinds or 10 big blinds. What are the stack sizes in relation to yours.

    Also if a strategy isn’t working for your table then you would need to change. If you went all in a couple times and everyone folds, then next time just raise 3x or so of the initial raise. For some players all in is scary and they won’t call except with AA or KK. They might call a smaller raise though.

    #632
    John Carter
    Participant

    First 4 levels. Blinds were small. 50/100 then 150/75 and 25 chip ante then 200/100 25 chip ante. We all start with 5000 chips. I had anywhere between 3500 and 6500 chips. There was an opening raise in front of me every time. Thanks

    #633
    John Carter
    Participant

    Totally agree. I should have adjusted. 2.5 x initial raise would have built the pot.

    #696
    Sam Pye
    Participant

    Agreed with the other posts, a shove is just going to kill any action unless it’s a complete cooler, in which case it’s likely to be all in anyway.

    The other problem here is that it defines your hand almost exactly when you shove and will make it clear that you can’t have AA/KK when you take any different action with your other holdings.

    #1099
    Stephen Swiss
    Participant

    Its tough catching premium hands early in a tournament. No one is short stacked and desperate, most everyone is still playing relatively cautious trying to get reads, the blinds are small so a fold in the BB or SB is meaningless chip-wise. Its a fine line between min-raising to allow others in (and getting sucked out on), and betting big and scaring everyone out. I will sometimes just call in early position, and will lightly three-bet any who raise in middle or late position. I want action, but on my terms. I will usually call a small raise when in late position and bully after the flop, 3 bet a big raise, and be satisfied with a fold. If, on the other hand, several players after me limp to the flop, I’m good for one raise or three bet, but will let it go easily if 3 bet on a wet board. Again, its early, plenty of time to recoup your losses. Best case scenario, there is a LAG who is trying to win the tournament on one hand, and you stack him. Late position, min raise to appear to be stealing blinds and maybe induce a bluff raise from the blinds, then a big 3 bet. A win is a win, even if its just the blinds. Its nice to win big with your premium hands, but absolutely sucks to get railed early on by getting your nuts busted because you fell in love with them.

    #1127
    Old Dog
    Participant

    I’ll agree with everyone about smaller raises with so many blinds behind, but there is another factor to consider, too. If you seem to have problems with certain types of flops when you hold just an overpair and might be risking losing a lot, then picking up the blinds and one raise is a good average result to go for. As your play improves so that you know when your overpair is in trouble AND you can fold it, then the reward of keeping other players in the pot is worth the risk of getting a bad flop.
    Remember as you get advice from players here that it is usually good advice if you’re playing close to their level. If you are much earlier in your learning, perhaps safer (meaning smaller variance) plays might be better.
    More experience helps, play a lot!

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