- This topic has 2 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 7 years, 2 months ago by
.
-
Posts
-
(sorry for the long backstory but it’s relevant) this was a very weird spot…it always seems like there is a lot of second guessing after you get into an unexpected and unfamiliar situation:
I was playing 1/3 at the Aria for several hours. I have a good handle on the players and I’m up $150+ and playing well. My friend joins the table. He has little to no live experience but he knows how to play tight and he was just there to have a little fun and hang out. we play a couple hours at this table before this hand. he’s in the 9 seat and i’m in the 2 seat…so i have to chat ‘across’ the dealer with him. a new player sits down in the 8 seat. he at least is acting like he’s a good player’ meaning, he doesn’t look like a tourist. he’s young. he’s doing chip tricks non-stop and looking serious. probably about the second or third hand with him at the table this hand happens.
sorry, i hid the cards on the replay.
new guy raises to 10. my friend cold calls. i have QQ in the BB. I 3 bet to $30. In thinking back I probably should have made it more like $45 although I don’t think it changes what happened. after the new guy calls the $20 more, my friend tanks a little and is acting very uncomfortable. he keeps looking at his cards and putting them down. he lifts up his cards like he’s going to fold and then does the UNTHINKABLE: he turns them up slightly in my direction SHOWING ME HIS CARDS!! and further acting like he is going to fold face up. I had no clue that he was this unfamiliar with live play that he would do something like this. He later told me that he was just tired and confused and didn’t mean to show me his cards but it absolutely looked like he was trying to show just me. The dealer immediately yells at him “hey HEY you can’t show your friend your hand!”, grabs the cards (he had folded) and exposes them to the table. AK off!!! nightmare. I unfortunately didn’t notice the suits.
So now you can see the action as it played out on the share my pair link.
So of course an A hits on the flop. Obviously since AK was folded it’s less likely villain has an A. Which makes me start considering his range of non A hands that would cold call my 3-bet. I decide to bet to charge any flush or str8 draws he may have. I put out $50. He calls. Turn comes a heart putting two flush draws out. I think for a while. I just know at this level, if he has an A he is never folding even if I bomb the river – especially since we know an A is already gone. I check. He surprisingly checks back. river comes another heart which i’m not worried about. I check. he bets $100. I tank for a long time. I talk myself into call because it seems like if he is a thinking player he would totally play a missed draw like this or turn a pair into a bluff. Normally at this level ppl rarely bluff a big river bet but given all the info I call. This whole situation was so odd. I feel like I didn’t deal with it well and made some mistakes.
What do you fine people think!?
Hmm weird spot indeed. Had you not seen the exposed cards, you might have put more Ax into villain’s range, i guess.. (and potentially lose less).
so i think your thinking about less chances for villain to have an ace is ok.i think your flop cbet is ok, turn you could either bet or check (maybe checking is better since the board texture doesn’t change much (appart from bringing a dbfd). River is a tough spot… I dunno if I’d c/c, c/f, or maybe we can kind of blockbet (60ish). If villain calls with KT, QT, JT we’re good. He may fold a busted draw, good for us. He may call with an ace, but we would lose less than the 100 he bet. If he raises, we can fold. The thing is, if we bet-check-bet weak, it might looks like we were on a flush draw… we have to keep in mind that the exposed AK is also good info for villain ; we are less likely to have an ace ourself. (And in that precise situation, him having an ace, he can be fairly confident that we don’t).
Maybe i’m pushing it a little further, but could villain think that you thinking he’s less likely to have an ace will make you call his bet lighter, then he might be more value betting than bluffing?!
What an awkward spot. I think that if the villain is capable as you say, he has plenty of bluffs here in his range, especially spade draws (did you have the Qs?).
I think getting nearly 3:1 on the river call, with AK being folded and with you blocking AQ this is a shrug and call as played.
The problem with the river is that the most obvious straight draw (J9) gets there, and if he had a hand like K10hh, J10hh, Axhh etc those just got there too. Those hands are pretty unlikely though, I would imagine, especially the heart draws, would barrel turn.
I like the way you played this hand, overall.
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.