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  • 07/22/2017 at 5:10 pm #1009
    A Canadian
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    I can’t remember the positions, but I’ll try to be as accurate as possible,

    I have 4s 5s, i open to 10 and get 2 callers behind me. flop comes jh 3s 6s, i raise to 15, next player shoves for ~60, the next player reshoves for ~150, and it comes back to me, I have a stack of ~330. I’m curious to see what everyone would do in this spot

    07/22/2017 at 7:06 pm #1010
    Patrick
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    Against 2 players all in I think you have to assume that your outs aren’t as good as you would hope.

    Open ended straight flush draw is pretty damn powerful, and against a 1 pair hand you usually don’t mind getting it all in here. Against the one $60 all in I think a snap call is in order, but a re-shove by the 2nd guy is pretty scary and he can NEVER be bluffing. If either of these guys have a set, you are behind and dodging redraws to the boat. If either of these guys have 2 over clubs, you just lost most of your outs you were hoping you had. At this point in the hand you have invested $25 and now have to decide if its worth putting in $135 more after seeing all these fireworks. $135 call to win the $240 out there seems good if you think you have 15 outs with 2 cards to come, but I doubt that’s the case here. I mean for you to be in good shape here you basically have to hope one of these guys has AJ with no spade, and the other one has QQ with no spade. AA and KK are pretty unlikely based on no preflop 3-bet, right? You think someone is jamming with TT or worse? Probably not.

    I think more often than not you are in bad shape here and maybe relying on the straight (6 outs) only and having to dodge the board pairing or a club hitting…

    I think you can usually find a fold here.

    07/22/2017 at 8:22 pm #1011
    A Canadian
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    Yeah, i ended up folding, and the board runs 10s 2h, the reshover showed As Js and took it down

    07/23/2017 at 3:38 pm #1022
    turbulent1
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    Once there is a shove and restive on the flop you can assume you are against hands like AJs, a set, or some one with pair + draw (possibly higher flush draw). In this spot you’re not getting a good price to draw against two other opponents.

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