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  • #482
    JackAssPreFlop
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    Game: Live 1/2 NLH 100 max raise, Ameristar Casino, Black Hawk, CO, around 9pm – 1am Fri – Sun, usually full 9-handed tables

    I see so many limps (4+), there is a raise in one of the late positions to 8-10x BB, and everybody calls! Statistically, there is no way there can be this many good hands all the time. Leaves me confused with limited to no information on what ranges I put people on. What to do?

    Things that come to my mind:

    1) Bigger raise size, but is it profitable?
    2) Limp behind with non-premium hands. I know it’s a bad idea. But is it really?
    3) Change nothing. It’s good that too many people call your raise with weaker hands.

    My Background: New to live 1/2 NLH but doing fairly OK so far (Avg $50+/hour, small sample size though).

    #489
    Steve
    Participant

    At $50 an hour don’t change a thing!
    Seriously, I love these tables. Play any decent cards in position for two dollars. Any premium hands raise and if you connect keep raising, if you don’t check and give up.
    You will lose more pots, but the ones you win will be bigger with so many callers in it.
    Just be careful post flop.
    Hand ranges will be come more defined after the flop.

    #490
    Steve
    Participant

    Oh, and don’t bloat pots out of position. Always limp in early position with small pocket pairs as you can’t get anyone to fold anyway.

    #497
    Michael
    Participant

    Its a fit or fold no point in bluffing game.
    1) Check over-call with over cards / over pairs to bets < 1/2 pot – discretion lol live reads on others
    2) Bet/call strong 4 card draws to build value for when you hit (nfd, nsd)
    3) Bet/call trips/sets and top-top on dry boards, check call wet boards other than reads of a made 5 card hand from aggressor – don’t be afraid to fold wet boards. A lot of these players are literally ATC, so if you think “no way they played 95 of hearts there” — trust me, they played 95 of hearts there. Don’t go nuts with Top Top, you will run into a lot of unexpected two pairs, BUT you will also get called down with Pair plus K, Q, or connected card or second/third pair. Slur your speech a bit and act tipsy to get those second and third pairs to call you down.
    4) Check raise made 5 card hands
    5) Check fold under pairs, under cards, under suited connectors, no pair no draw

    Those are all general guidelines. Certain wild tables you will get the sense that two players are raising everything and you’ll need to flop a 5 card made hand to continue. Some tables are wild pre-flop but then all the action dries up once no one hits the flop.

    Live poker <> online poker. Do not assume everyone is playing with a HUD and great stat lists about each opponent, because no one is unless you are playing nosebleeds, and then its all in their heads anyway. Your average game as you described, yeah, no one is. Look for basic body language, at this level they are mostly not even aware of what they are giving off.

    Oh, and have fun. Poker at this level is very loose and basic. Enjoy the game!

    #502
    Steve
    Participant

    LOL Michael…I am going to add the tipsy act to my game!

    #526
    JackAssPreFlop
    Participant

    Thanks guys. Great advice. One thing that might be the root of some calls with weak hands may be the fact that this particular casino pays $500 to the best hand every two hours. It usually ends up being quads or a straight flush. Maybe some people call raises with 75s in hopes of making a SF.

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