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  • #3790
    Hans Griese
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    Alrighty, another session in, a few more hands I’d like appraised. My image at the table was tight-ish, but I showed down a couple of looser hands that got me some action. The table was a big fan of bingo, often getting lots of callers on even $10 opens just for most to fold on the flop

    $1/$2, all of these hands are between 7 and 9-handed.

    1) QQ in LP, I make it $10, get 6 callers. Flop: A78 with two hearts. Checks to me, I bet $25, 1 caller. turn is an off 6, checks around. Turn is a J hearts. He open-shoves for about 40, and I fold. He shows A10 off.

    2) KJ off UTG, I make it 10. That’s a little looser than normal for me, but I think it’s fine for the table. I get 1 caller, MP goes all-in for 15, gets a cold call behind, then I and the other caller call it as well. flop is 10-8-6 rainbow. The cold caller bets out for 20, I fold, so does the caller behind me. All-in has AK, flop-bettor has QQ. Board runs out 9-Q rainbow. So sadly I would have made the nuts on the board, but I think the fold is correct.

    3) Preface, this is suuper loose, but its bingo table who often fold to c-bets on the flop…(that’s as best I can do for rationalizing this lol). K7 off in the CO, I make it 8. Button, BB, and 2 more call. flop is 6c5h2h. Checks to me, I c-bet 15, only BB calls. Turn is 7c. I bet 25, he calls…now I’m worried. River is the 6 hearts. He checks, I snap check it back. Turns out he has a 5 with the club draw. So somehow I’m good…But this definitely made me have to tighten my opens up, as no one believed me anymore.

    4) AQ off UTG, I make it 10, 2 callers. flop is 652 with two hearts, it checks around. Turn is an A, BB donks all-in for 33, I call. She is a super tight player – she’d fold nut flushes to paired boards almost always. I put her on AK through A10, so I assume its a kicker race. River is an 8, she turns over pocket 66s. So that was very surprising from her…nothing else doing here, right?

    5) QQs UTG, I make it 10 and get 5 callers. (Yea…UTG open, 5 callers. Normal for this table. Loving it). flop is 10K6, two spades. I naturally C-bet this to $25, and get 1 caller. Turn is a blank, I check, he checks. River is an off 7, I bet $30. TBH, I think I’m no good here, but this guy has been super loose and has shown he’s willing to call with 2nd or 3rd pair. He always has the flush draws though. He mini-tank calls, and I end up being good. I guess maybe he had a 10 and thought I busted my draw?

    Thanks for any input – I appreciate it!

    #3797
    John S
    Participant

    Hand 1: I don’t see a reason to bet this flop. With 7 players seeing the flop, almost guaranteed someone has an A, and a good chance someone as straight/flush draws. When you get that many callers it’s hard to have the best hand, and betting is just burning money. You should be playing very straightfoward (that is, only betting for value when you have a strong hand) since chances are someone hit the flop.

    Hand 2: Perfectly fine. You only had a backdoor draw. With one player all-in pre, and another showing aggression by betting into a dry side pot you have to let this go. Open-ended draws are a pretty easy call, and a gutter could go either way, and that really depends on how much money is behind (more likely to call if there is a lot behind). Back-door is an easy fold.

    Hand 3: I don’t hate this. I don’t mind opening light from LP when it’s folded to you. Flop and turn bets are fine. You could take a bet-fold line on the river, but with that 6 pairing not sure how much worse you get value from. River check is fine.

    Hand 4: Nothing wrong here. If you bet flop, maybe she shoves and you can fold. But once that A hits on the turn you can never fold for that amount.

    Hand 5: Similar to hand 1, but betting on a K-high board is a little better than betting an A-high board. Reason being is players will call with more A-x type hands rather than K-x type hands. That said, I’m not excited to pile money into this pot once 5 players call. But, I think a c-bet is fine to try and thin the field and charge the draws. Check on the turn is fine to see what he does. When he checks back, I like the river bet to target a 10 since he should be betting his Kings here. Good job at targeting a donk-type player who is going to payoff with second pair, especially since it doesn’t look like you can beat a K with the turn-check and most players aren’t value betting QQ/JJ here.

    #3815
    allin67
    Participant

    More of a broad comment that is associated with Hands #2 and #3. You appear to have a strategic approach to playing in a loose game by being loose yourself. Don’t be lured into playing bingo just because that is what everyone else is doing. Find hands that play well multi-way, play position, and over-raise and over-bet for value when you think you are ahead. Only winner in bingo game is the house. You ban only beat this kind of table long run by not playing bingo.

    #3823
    Hans Griese
    Participant

    Interesting allin. I was thinking that, with a bingo board, I could open wider and rep strength more often. But I suppose if they are calling more frequently, I’m setting myself up for winning small and losing big. I suppose its more of a what type of Bingo – I can punish limping bingo, but open-calling bingo not so much.

    #3843
    lkoehrin
    Participant

    1)
    – If the table dynamic is such that a $10 raise is getting tons of calls, go bigger with RFI.
    – There’s no reason to bet this flop.
    – He shoves $40 into a pot of $120… thus, you only need to be good 20% of the time here to call. You have the right price, but I guess if you want to exploitatively fold then go for ir.
    2)
    – You say the table is loose and standard raise sizes are going very multi-way to the flop, but you think opening KJo in EP is good? Nah, never good. The looser the table, the tighter you RFI, not the other way around.
    3)
    – This is a very loose open as you mentioned.
    – I don’t see any merit in c-betting this flop. This board smashes the BTN and even BB’s range. You can have overpairs and sets, but you also have a ton of overs in your range. They, meanwhile, have all of the sets, two pairs, and then strong straight draws and more flush draws. They also have the nuts in their range, and you really shouldn’t.
    4)
    – Standard
    5)
    – Don;t c-bet this board. With this many callers the raw equity of your hand decrease SO MUCH. Why would you just “naturally c-bet” this board?

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