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07/04/2017 at 2:53 pm #841PatrickParticipant
There was an earlier thread that was specific to the transition from 1-2 to 2-5. My question is along the same lines, but broader. I guess I would consider myself a regular 2-5 NLH player because that is the game I am generally looking for when I go out, however if that game isn’t good I play 1-2 or 1-3 (which is rarely “bad”) or low stakes PLO. I end up playing something smaller than 2-5 about half of my sessions currently. With Bankroll and my own win rate (bb/hr per game) in mind, I am looking to start selectively moving up to 5-10 on occasion and feel that out. I am probably never going to go full time pro because I have a sick job… but I do take my game pretty serious (study, bankroll management, records & trending, ROI, game selection, etc etc).
My question is this. How would you rate the player pool vs the game stakes for each level? Obviously there will be discrepancies from room to room and table to table, but in general do you think it is a dramatic change from 2-5 to 5-10 or more linearly associated with the 1-2 to 2-5 jump? What about 10-20 and bigger?
I suspect that at the bottom and highest stakes, you have a bigger delta in player ability, with a tighter band in the middle stakes.
For example at 1-2 to 2-5 you have people who watch poker on ESPN and are just looking to play for fun with no concept of game theory or anything else. Just pure gamblers looking to have a good time basically and willing to spend a couple hundred bucks. And to go with them you have the low level “grinders” of the game. Not quite Pro’s, but students of the game at minimum, and they are there specifically to exploit the casual tourist/gambler because there is a rather large skill gap.
Meanwhile at the top, I don’t know, maybe 200-400 or bigger it would seem its a very similar dynamic. Wealthy businessmen who are there to gamble with little care of money, plus the Phil Iveys and Daniel Negreanu’s of the poker world.
What about in the middle? Are the gamblers basically at all the levels? Or is it a more condensed pool of “players” in the 5-10 to 10-20 levels? What about 50-100?Anyone have any input or experience here? Anyone have an opinion on what skill levels you find at each game? Anyone want to go all in blind with me?
07/08/2017 at 6:45 pm #912PatrickParticipantNo one has any input at all on this? How unfortunate.
07/09/2017 at 2:17 am #915Brad OwenKeymasterLol I have been waiting for someone to give their input because I’m very curious as well. The problem is that there probably are very few people on here who play 10/20+ who can answer it so most would be answering based on heresay or speculation. I have a few friends who play 10/20+ at Bellagio and they tell me it’s usually all pros except maybe one or two guys. When it gets really high, I think you’re right that it actually gets softer since they’re able to fill the games with more wealthy business men types. It seems that those games are basically privatized (even if they are running in a major casino) to ensure there aren’t too many pros that the business men don’t enjoy playing with.
07/09/2017 at 7:45 pm #936PatrickParticipantThanks Brad. Yea, its not a problem I am going to have to worry about any time soon, but I am a curious kinda guy. Ha. When you get up there yourself you can let us know. 🙂
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