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I’ve been replaying this hand a while in my head and can’t figure out if I like my line or not and if I got max value against her expected range.
I had played for about 2 hours at this point in the session and I am not a regular at this casino and to that point, my table image had been tight, c-betting, but folding to reraises or other c-bets. I had been fairly card dead which led to a tighter than I wanted image. Game was limp happy with a few calling stations and a few tight, aggressive post flop, players.
In any case, knowing I wasn’t playing enough hands, got dealt 9c,10c in the button. Four limps ahead of me, I raised to 20, BB called and 2 of the limpers called. BB was one of the aforementioned tight players, the limpers were calling stations.
Flop comes 7s,7c,9h. BB raises 20, both calling stations fold to me. At this point, her range seems fairly wide, shouldn’t have AA/KK too much given she knows she was getting called if she didn’t 3 bet preflop, QQ-TT through 88-22 are all possible as well as many AK-AJ hands. At this point I had not seen her show up with much less and certainly wasn’t playing the volume of hands to need to play much more. I call, figuring it’s way to tight to fold given my perceived range and probably ahead verses a large portion of her range.
Turn comes 7d. At this point, she checks, I check back. I figure I’m only getting called when I’m beat on that street and it’s a very dry drawing board.
River comes a 9s and this is where it gets interesting. I’m 100% convinced I’ve got the best hand here and need to go for max value looking for what will surely be a crying call. She puts in a raise of 25. I figure there’s a few reason she’s doing this, 1) she actually has a 7, highly unlikely given all the known information. 2) She has a hand like QQ-TT and looking to protect her hand from being blown off. 3) She has air or little show down value and looking to blow me off the hand with a reraise. In any case, I look at the pot of ~120$ + her 25$ bet and make it 75$. It still gives her good odds to call, and I don’t think I’m getting called if I bet much more, could be wrong. She reraises for the remainder of her stack for about 200$ total. I’m convinced I’ve got the best hand, and the very few times I don’t, I have to call off this 4:1 odds 100% of the time and she has the 7 she has it.
Obviously, this wouldn’t be much of a hand history if she didn’t have 7h5h. I don’t really see how I play it much differently at any point until the reraise and the call. Did I put too little odds on her actually having quads or is this just a cooler? I can’t see no reraising her QQ-TT range for value after I river top boat. Only thing I could possible do differently was fold the reraise? I dunno, seems way to nitty given I’d had a fold happy image at the table.
Seems to me like post flop the hand played itself. Your thought process about the whole thing seems pretty solid to me. I don’t see how you are ever getting away from the hand after the river 9. There is literally 1 card in the deck to fear. BB special and all that jazz…? No way. You are just paying her off on this one. Be happy you weren’t deep.
The only thing I would ask is about the $20 pre. You said 4 limpers to you plus the blinds means there was $11 in the pot when the action came to you (I am assuming 1-2 game, but $16 so if 1-3). Now it’s super game dependent, but many places $12-$15 pre is standard open (crazy I know, but still). If this table is like that, you have to size up more pre with so many limpers already in there if you want to narrow the field/ranges. Again, I don’t know this game so maybe $20 was fine. Just food for thought.
Plus if you make it $24-$28, maybe she calls you anyway and nothing changes.
Yes, I would raise as well because there is only 1 hand that can beat you. But when she 3-bets you her hand is pretty much face up. In general, don’t think players at lower limit would raise with TT-QQ with a full house on the board.
Just a rotten turn, and a worse river. I don’t think there was anything else you could do. Sometimes, the minimum loss is the maximum loss. I think I am going to make a t-shirt. 🙂 Good luck!
Why would you ever be 100% sure that you have her beat? Her line suggests quads are in her range, a hand like 76 suited or something. The fact that she bet out the flop indicates right then and there trips are in her range. The check on the turn actually corroborates that, as a lot of players make odd players when they have absolute monster hands like quads, they want to play deceptive even if betting may be the better option. So I’d be a little cautious at this point. The check back is fine imo. When this player bets out the river when the 9 comes, player clearly has no bluffs almost always, so they’re either betting a 9 and you’re chopping (which they’ll most likely never fold if you reraise), or they have a 7 and you beat, OR as you mentioned, maybe a hand like 1010 or jj. But hands like 1010 and jj10, are probably going to be a little scared themselves of betting on a board like 99777, as all you need is a 9 and they’re crushed. If you think their only 7s are 75, 76, and 78 suited, there are still 3 combos of that compared to 18 of qq, jj or 1010.. however, it just doesn’t seem too likely they’d play those hands like this. And they’d never ever reraise you on the river with a hand like that, makes no sense. So honestly, I really don’t mind just calling the river, because it’s so hard to imagine they’d call you with anything worse than at least a chop, and you avoid this horrible spots you wound up in .
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