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08/29/2017 at 8:18 pm #1312Mike MParticipant
Hello,
Playing 1/2. This was my second hand at the table. I have Pocket QQ’s in the BB. Six players limp into the pot. I raise to $14. MP is the only caller. He is the big stack at the table.
My effective stack is $135.
Big Stack is 3x that.Flop comes J2T rainbow. I bet $20. He calls.
Turn is 9. I bet $30. He re-raises to $80. I go ALL-IN.
River was another J.
He says from across the table “I have the straight”
He shows Q8 of clubs. And I show the queens.I should of raised more pre-flop. I was giving him 2.5:1 on a call. Open to suggestions on how to play the hand better.
08/29/2017 at 9:08 pm #1315JamesonParticipantMy suggestion is to fold the turn. What bluffs does he have? Meanwhile, he has a lot of hands he might do this with. QK, Q8, maybe 78. Even if he did it with sets and two pairs, like j9, jj, 1010, you’d still lose to all that too. I can’t think of one hand he does this with that you beat, except maybe a poorly played AJ, but that doesn’t happen enough to justify calling.
08/30/2017 at 7:31 am #1322Mike MParticipantYeah. The alarm bells were ringing on the turn. I had not won a pot all night and don’t think Im good enough to fold pocket queens in that spot.
08/30/2017 at 8:22 am #1325Raymond ChangParticipantnext time don’t tell us the results so we can be objective on our suggestions rather than knowing the result before giving our opinions
08/30/2017 at 3:47 pm #1332overflowParticipantYou should raise more pre-flop, i would like to pop it up to 20-25.
Also, half of our stack is in the pot already on the turn, but villain always has you beat.Just fold.
JT/J9 is there, we block queens but KQ is also a hand that would play this way.08/30/2017 at 4:04 pm #1334MichParticipantAlthough I agree with a bigger preflop raise, I think you achieved what you wanted to achieve and that is go heads up on the flop. So I think you need to steer away from the result of the hand.
Honestly though I think this is a semi cooler. Its really difficult to get away from this hand when you only have $135 behind, and he could be re-raising you with any 2 pair, or potentially strong top pair… Folding here is way too nitty here and I think you really just have to get this in with your stack.
You also had 4 outs to a better straight worst case scenario. I wouldve got myself in the same situation.
Of course if you have a bigger stack you would’ve been able to get away from this i would think.
08/31/2017 at 7:53 am #1343Jesse AndersonParticipantYou need to raise more pre, yes, but not because you want to limit the field or whatever. You want to be able to raise in this spot with really bad hands as a bluff and actually get folds. With 6 limpers and you the pot is $14 before you raise. In spots like this you need to look at raising 1.5-3x the pot with a super polarized range. QQ is on one end of the polarization, so making it $23-$40 would be the range I’d look for.
Betting $20 into $36 is awfully small on the flop, but given your preflop size I think it’s fine. Also recognize that this flop is probably better for a pre-flop limp/call range than a BB raise range. People limp/call with a lot of middle/weak broadway hands (JT, QJ, KJ, KTs, KQs, ATs) and you’re likely only raising with pocket pairs and big Aces (AK/AQ).
The turn card you need to recognize as a bad turn card for your range (if not your hand). When a board runs out this good for your opponents range you’re obliged to check. Your hand actually does really well as a check-call here since you’re blocking so many straights.
I’d say in this spot on the turn you just need to go into check-call mode. He’s likely to bet small with such a strong hand against what looks like over cards or a single pair, and you also induce value bets from weaker hands (AJ, AT, KJ), bluffs from hands like AQ, and merge bets from QJ, QT, Q9, J8, T8, 98, etc.
09/14/2017 at 6:45 pm #1470JmaParticipantLike other suggested, I would of raise to $25 (6 limpers+ $13 raise). It will be $50 going to the flop. My cbet will be around $30-$40, if villain is in the looser end I will make him pay more for his draw. If he calls you and catches on the turn then it is what it is..
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