Queens vs some serious recreationals

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  • #1224
    EJ
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    1/3 no limit

    Im in the LJ with $200 to start the hand

    SB ($200)

    Big Blind ($400)

    It folds to me in the LJ I open to 15 with QsQc

    SB and BB call

    Flop comes 9s7s2h

    The BB leads for 25 I call and SB calls

    turn: 4s

    checks through

    river: 9c

    SB leads for 50 and the BB calls

    Do I call or fold?

    Both of these players are big rec players no nits but they do not know how to value there hands as well as most players

    #1226
    Tony Pagliocco
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    So I’ll give my take for what its worth.

    I’m folding. Reason being – very likely its some x9 hand and it got there.

    My only ? is , why didnt you raise the flop to like $125? I think that is what I would there, I would love to hear your thoughts on if you consider that good or bad as I may be wrong in my line of play.

    #1233
    Laurens
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    I think you can go 2 ways with this hand. Either raise the flop ( as mentioned above) to protect from draws and get max value out of 9x hands, or take the line you took and fold river. think the lead on the flop is most likely a hand like 9x. could also be 2 weak spades, maybe a straight draw ( Not saying that would be the best way to play those, but you see that from time to time). but don’t think you ever see a set or 2 pair lead there. If you get called you can assume that you are beat on the river, only beating hands like 10 8 or something random.

    I do think however the optimal play is to raise flop, or at least bet small on the turn. be a little more agro with big overpairs.

    #1249
    Jesse Anderson
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    As played I think you’re folding the river. An argument can be made for raising the flop to get it in if possible, but I don’t mind calling the flop against bad opponents when there’s such an obvious draw on the flop to try and get it in on the turn when you’re a bigger favorite.

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