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  • #2186
    turbulent1
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    I’m playing 1-2 at Red Rock Casino

    $290 effective
    Action starts with a limp from ep and then it folds to me on the button. I look down at QQ and raise to $10. Small blind folds and then the big blind 3bets to $35. I’m giving villain a range of AQ+ and QQ+. I don’t believe many players at this level will 3 bet small suited connectors or suited broadway cards. I make the call.

    Pot $73

    Flop 7d 8d 4s
    Villain bets $40
    I call

    Pot $153

    Turn Qh
    Villain checks
    I think villain would still bet his overpairs to the board in this spot so now I’m putting him on AK. This is a spot where I’m not sure if I should be betting or if I should check behind to give viallian a chance to bluff on the river. Looking forward to any advice you guys can give.

    #2190
    Laurens
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    If you really think the ranges are that tight, you can bet like you would do with QJ and QT, and bluffs like JT and T9. AA and AK will call you for sure, if not raise, as well as AQ and maybe even AK.

    But I think the range of your opponent is wider, so you can check there as well, waiting for a bluff on the river

    #2192
    Old Dog
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    I agree with Laurens that you may be giving villain too tight of a range. I think that jacks and tens are often there and maybe a few weaker hands considering that he is out of position. To answer your question, I think you should bet for value on the turn. You can get called by diamond draws, straight draws (admittedly not many) and all pairs. The turn hits a small part of your range (3 pairs of queens, maybe some AQ’s), so villain may well believe that you are on a draw or trying to steal the hand. You’re much more likely to get called on a bet here than on a river when villain can no longer improve or when a draw-completing card hits (jacks, sixes and diamonds would kill the action and any eight, nine or ten would probably shut him down and that’s half the deck).
    I think a bluff on the river from villain is less likely that a call of your turn bet. You did lead out, call a three bet and call a flop bet. If he just has AK, he’ll likely check the river hoping for a free showdown.

    #2195
    turbulent1
    Participant

    I appreciate the feedback. Admittedly I was only at the table for a couple orbits before this hand developed, but villain seemed to be an older reg who played like a rock. His only hand that he showed was JJ and he didn’t raise this hand preflop. He just didn’t seem like the type of player to 3 bet out of position with out a premium hand.

    That being said, I could see some suited connectors and possible diamond draws in his range. I did bet $80 on the turn and he mucked almost immediately.

    #2198
    Bill Hewitt
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    It looks like the villain had AK here and wouldn’t have put anymore money in unless he hit on the river (that’s 6/46 cards so only 13% of the cards). I’d much rather bet this turn and get some value from his AA, KK and AQ. If he’s truly a rock then you aren’t getting a bluff from him on the river so you probably got close to the max.

    In the future you should put more info about the villain and yourself in the OP. If you’ve been playing LAG he might 3 bet a little wider to your button open. Try to include any relevant info for analysis.

    #2221
    Halliday
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    I like a small bet there. 50-60 dollars. I don’t really see him having any draws so you have the board pretty much on lock.there are a lot more hands he has that would call a bet as opposed to hands he feels he has to turn into bluffs. Aim would be to get crying calls from ace king who want to see the river and jacks and 10’s. Then a similar 1/3 bet on the river unless a king or ace hits, then I would size up.

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