SUPER weird spot: Bad play?

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  • #3480
    Jordan
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    Playing 3/5 at Hollywood Park in LA. The reason why im posting in the 1/2 1/3 forum is bc the table basically played like the lowest stakes. Super nitty/passive with only one other player to speak of with any skill.

    Been playing at the table for about 1 hr. Hero on the button with KQ off. Limps around and I make it 35.
    SB, BB, UTG, CO calls
    Flop: Qs 10d 6s
    checks around to me, I bet 60. SB and CO call. The reason why I bet on the smaller side to the pot is because I felt like I wanted to deny any drawing hands as well as keep in a few worse Q’s or 10’s. In retrospect I should have sized up on the flop.
    Turn: 9s
    SB leads for 150. Fairly TAG player. Never seen him bluff, but understands the game and capable of making one. Got into a convo with him about pot odds, implied odds, ranges, value bets, fold equity, etc. Never had anything less than top pair from what i’ve seen.
    CO cold calls. Older man but playing very tight. Old man coffee profile.
    Stack sizes at this point:
    SB ~400. BB ~250. Hero ~600

    At this point im in an interesting spot. My first immediate thought is that the CO has AQ here a lot of the time. I’ve seen him limp call for around 40 preflop with hands as high as KK. The SB leading for so much makes me think he has some kind weaker Q that’s trying to increase his fold equity. He could also have KJ, 87 suited, or QJ with the world. I did not have a the Ks but I block KJ and QJ. He could also have QT here a fair amount of the time and try to push people off a weak flush but he doesn’t seem like the player to do that, especially when he bets so big. Because he was a fairly tight player I put him on at least a Q or possibly a set of 10’s or 6’s. He could also be bluffing with AK but I block that he isn’t the type of player to make a bluff really, if at all being first to act. At the time I was putting the CO on AQ much more than the SB simply bc of his tighter range preflop (even though I block AQ) and the SB on a possible turned flush, two pair, or set. He just seems so strong by leading into two people on such a wet turn card with very few semi/bluffs in his range (single card flush draws).

    Simply because of the way the CO cold called 150 so easily I felt like I was behind to AQ or (less likely) a flush. He could also have a set but with him being so tight he would most likely bet the flop with 10’s or 6’s to deny the front door flush draw.

    I end up making the fold because in a multi-way pot with a big bet and call I felt like I was behind with top pair second kicker on such a wet board.

    River: Blank 3d.

    Action goes check check and the SB had J10 with the Js and the CO had pocket 8’s with the 8s. SB was open ended with a straight and flush draw and the CO was double gutted with a straight and flush draw. I would have scooped the pot against both players. Thoughts?

    #3518
    akhil Nair
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    You dont say whether u have the Ks… is very important info. Overall I think it is a reasonable fold…tough spot.. but reasonable fold nonetheless less. I would probably call turn and fold to any to action on the river with no Ks in hand. Having the Ks would make it very interesting on river if 4th card flush came in.. but not sure what the right play is.
    Have you plugged in ranges and calculated equity of you cards against their ranges? I plan to do it on my end but if you have already please share.

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