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  • #3465
    Wade
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    Forgive me on the details, this hand happened back in May. It kinda bugs me so I’ll ask. 1/2 no limit. $425 in front of me. I’m in early position, I think big blind bc there were some limpers and I made it 20 to go with QQ. Small blind is only caller. Approximately $50 in pot. Flop comes 87(5 I think. Not positive but I know it was less than the 87 and not at six. Lol sorry) Anyway checks to me and I bet $25 thinking it will take it down. We are sitting either side of dealer. Villain leans up and says how much do you have? I look at my stack and as I’m saying about say $425 the 3 seat blurts “He’s got you covered.” He had a little over $300. Bought in for 3 and won a small pot. Probably about $325. He proceeds to say “Oh” kinda sheepishly like and then says “Well I’ll raise to $125.” I tank for about 15 seconds and fold.

    Reasoning, Possible flopped straight but I doubt he’d raise on the flop. I’m thinking set or 2 pair afraid of the straight draw.
    His reaction to my stack size and subsequent action made me think that know way is this a bluff and whatever he had he was willing to go with it.
    I fold saying to myself there will be better spots. I’m perfectly fine with my fold based on my reads. I was just feeling like it was a nitty fold. Now that I’ve typed it out and put things in words I’m still fine with my lay down. Even more so.

    Well what do you guys think?

    #3468
    Shaun fugate
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    A check/raise from blinds is typically very strong. From the sizing, a good player will do this with a vulnerable 2 pair but I would exclude a flopped straight in his range unless there is a FD on the flop. He may raise a straight here but it will likely be much smaller in $. I would make the same assumption about a set. You will see recreational players check/jamming here at small stakes because they don’t want to feel the pain of a 2 outer but those are usually easy to spot. An advanced player might make this move with 86 but it is a bit optimistic. Based on his sizing, I would narrow his range to 2 pairs and pair plus SD which has QQ crushed. It seems like a pretty easy laydown IMO.

    #3471
    Dave Thompson
    Participant

    I would likely fold as well. Check/raise on the flop in 1/2 is almost never a bluff in my experience. The only thing to consider is that, while this play is representing 2-pair or better, some weak players in low stakes games will check/raise a pair like 99-JJ on a flop like this. They are over-repping their hand when they do this (whether they know it or not), but I don’t think they’re trying to get a hand like QQ-AA to fold. They’re trying to fold out hands like AK/AQ/AJ and get value from hands that flopped top pair. Whether a particular player would make the play I describe is something you just have to learn from experience. So as a default in a 1/2 game, I would just fold here.

    #3479
    Chuck M
    Participant

    I agree with those two 🙂

    Plus if he’s a thinking player, he might know that, since you raise from ep, your range must be strong (mainly over pairs and overcards to that board)

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