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QQ(one club) on the Button.
5-6 limpers.
I raise to $20 with one call.
Flop – T95ccc
Aggressive villain, who I’ve been playing against all week… flops low flush, with redraw to straight flush.
I have an over pair, with a club… turned stop set… with redraw to flush, and numerous full houses.
Knowing fully that he likely has a low flush…
Should I just flat the turn?
Should I be folding in that spot (too nitty in my mind).
Was jamming for the rest of my stack a poor decision? Could have saved the $180.
HELP!!!
THANKS, Matt
Maybe i’m a nit, but i’m not quite sure what I would do vs his c/r on the flop.
Let’s say I call, like you did. Oh my bad, you guys are 250 bb deep, yeah i’d b/c as you did.He bets 200 in 250 on the turn… we need 30-35% equity to make the call, I think we almost have the direct odds… we have 10 out for FH+ (9 for FH and 1 for quads), plus let’s say 7 clubs.
But… could villain be check/folding a small/mid flush on a river paired board with that action? And would he call with 4-to-a-flush? (you could have AcQd, or something)… so for those reasons, maybe the shove is a good idea… But on the other hand, if you flat and miss, (he may check and you got a showdown). If you miss, you save almost 100bb !
on the other hand he might call anyway, feeling comitted to the pot… would bet 180 to call in a 830 pot… maybe he calls any river at this point…
So yeah, maybe calling or shoving are two valid options 🙂I would maybe size up a bit in your preflop raise. 25-30 with that many limpers. 20 isn’t bad though.
You can’t assume he has the flush here. Could be overplaying top pair. A10 with A clubs. You block AQcc. He might raise with any Ac. You are pretty deep for a 1/2 game. Did you consider raising the flop? I don’t think he is ever folding considering his hand though. But if he did have just the Ac or too pair with Ac you are looking ok.
The shove is fine on the turn. You pick up a bunch more outs and could easily be ahead.
Wait a second. Are you saying that you KNEW he flopped a small flush when you called his raise? There’s lots of other hands he could be raising with, including top pair with a good flush draw, a small set, or another overpair. You have to play against his whole range, not just what he ended up having.
As it stands, I think your calling him down is okay, especially once you turned a set of queens. Sometimes these aggressive guys catch the flops that they need, and they usually get paid off when they do.
Perhaps “knew” was a bit presumptuous… but it’s what I put him on.
I don’t think he raises that flop without at least a set. If he had say Ac5c, I think he flats the my c-bet. He’s only raising hands that stand to be second-best when a 4th club comes off. I agree he could have top pair with Ace of clubs. I think there’s a small chance he does this with top two. So either a set or low flush is all I can put him on.
I really appreciate the comment, keep ’em coming thanks!
Honestly I think I would have played it similar. I would have felt sick when I got check raise on flop and if I was on point, playing my A game, I can fold here. Especially since he makes it 100$. So fold is best I believe to this sizing.
I think this big size bet is just what you read it as. In his head He is best and is scared of the turn. He thinks i can beat an over pair. AcX or A10 usually check raise smaller or lead flops like this.
But at 1-2,1-3, 2-3 there is so much of a WTF factor that this call fold is at least close IMO.
In my games villain can have sets , top two and jj and play this way so I can’t argue with the turn play. Since I can actually have the best hand at this point. And have outs now vs the flush.
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