TPTK facing a turn overbet

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  • #1661
    shipitbruh
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    Hi guys, been thinking about this spot from this weekend’s session and wanted to see what you guys think. Villian is middle aged guy who sat down with beer in hand and had been giving some action during his short stint at the table prior to this hand.

    We are playing 1/3 and I have about $600 and Villian had about $160 to start the hand.

    Hero opens to $10 from EP w/ A10ss, get one field caller and Villian calls from the SB.

    Flop: 10c7s5c (Pot about $25 after the drop)

    Villian checks to me and I bet $15, field caller folds and villian calls.

    Turn: 9s (Pot $55)

    Villian thinks a bit and then donk jams remaining stack ~$125. Hero?

    I wasn’t sure what to do here, I obviously have a reasonably strong hand with TPTK with a redraw to the nut flush but his overbet had me quite confused. Will post results after I get some feed back, thanks!

    #1662
    Dave Thompson
    Participant

    That’s certainly a weird bet. If he’s got a monster, why wouldn’t he check and give you a chance to bet again? Did he turn two pair with T9? Did he turn a straight with J8 or 68? Did he turn a flush draw that he’s shoving as a bluff? Is this the kind of guy that can shove any two cards?

    Given that you may have the best hand and you have decent equity no matter what he has, I think I would call. But I don’t think I’d be very happy about it.

    #1663
    Luong
    Participant

    Against this kind of action player it obviously a call here, expected to be good most of the time if not the money is still there to be retake. I been playing poker for awhile, had seen alot bad players taking weird line with their different hands.sometime they don’t even know what to do then decide to make this kind of weird move. I do believe villain don’t have the nut here. He is on a draw I think, floating with QJ KJ then get a straight draw then shove. at least he knew he was behind but still try to bluff anyway hoping for a fold.
    Yeah some people are just doing what came across their mind at that moment. Even worst case maybe villain holding 34 36.

    • This reply was modified 7 years, 2 months ago by Luong.
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    #1666
    Yazzie
    Participant

    With the 9 on the turn, J8 and 86 get there. He has to be super bad to just donk jams after hitting his gutshot. I do not think that he’d hit a second pair either because he would most likely go for the old check-raise. The only hand that he might have that beats you is 95 .. called the flop with his bottom pair, turned his second pair & decided to poker-fart at you.

    Unless he is aware of his image and using it to direct you to a decision in his favor, he should never have anything more than a double draw; flop flush draw turn gutshot or double gutter (84cc). Something stupid.

    If i have to put him on a specific hand, giving your description of him, I’d say he has J9cc

    I would call for the same reason that Dave would.

    #1669
    Kevin Newnan
    Participant

    He’s repping a straight or a set. This guy would have probably raised a pocket pair preflop. Two tone flop he would be unlikely to check with a made hand or a straight draw (although maybe I’m giving him too much credit). Smells like bluff spirit, Nirvannah style. Call it off, he’s going to bleed it back to you anyway if he hits. Thanks for sharing!

    #1675
    shipitbruh
    Participant

    Thanks for the feedback guys!

    When this hand went down I had been playing for about 7 hours and was ready to get up and leave after making a comeback from being stuck, probably a reason I ended up tank folding, sigh….

    I put him on a weird 2 pair, I think a set would check raise flop or turn and a straight would also check raise here with 2 flush draws on the turn.

    Villian ended up showing 98o

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