What was I thinking?!! Set over set

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  • #1732
    GabeC.
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    So I previously had history with Villain . He checked the nuts to me and let me hang myself earlier. When the king came out on the turn he made a face like he was disgusted and checked that almost gave it away that he turned the nuts. My initial plan was to flat the flop and bomb the turn on any non-threatening card. Obviously that changed. What do you guys think?

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    #1740
    Chuck M
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    I think you played it well giving the information about your read.
    – Pf raise is good
    – Flop is ok to flat villain’s donkbet. Had we raise, we would’ve taken the risk to make him fold his bluffs. He might donk with small pair, small set, mid pocket pair, maybe a straight draw, Ax… flatting is ok, the board is pretty dry imo.
    – Turn goes check check. I normally would’ve chosen to bet here and call his c/r, thinking he might have Kx, KQ, KJ, KT, K9, maybe a little flopped set… or some gutshots to the broadway. But with the read you had, I think you made a super disciplined check here (pot control and keeping his range wide on the river) plus, it’s live poker, you must have gotten a strange feeling, a soul read in villain’s mind 🙂
    – River, based on your read, I think it’s still a call, our hand is too strong to fold. He surely can have hit a backdoor flush, but he also might have 2 pairs or undersets. The bet is not too big, when we checked the turn, we kept his range wide and that’s one reason to call down. Good job on not losing your stack, and nice read!

    #1741
    Ian McClellan
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    Your whole line (and his line) confuses the heck out of me. I think you lost the absolute absolute minimum. Him flatting your pre-flop raise, not 3-betting after makes no sense. Him leading out the flop I might expect with an A-free flop, but why did you not raise that $20? Dry board? He is saying he had a piece of that, so why not kick in a raise at $55-60? At the turn when he checks – you have to barrel – why did you check behind? You ‘knew’ he had KK? Maybe you got a crazy-good read…. but it seems a little suspect that you could narrow him on that hand vs. KX Broadway… He could have played KJ, KQ, AK the exact same – I would. Especially if I was suited spade, although then I would have smashed the turn with a big bet. If I hit my trip K on the turn with the spades out there like he did – I would be getting value on the turn – definitely not checking. NO WAY I expect my opponent to put me on KK after I flat a $15 raise preflop – that’s the EXACT reason that I flat pre-flop – so I can HAMMER the K when it comes. IDK bro- I think you have to call that river. Unlikely he has the Spades for the flush and if you tell me you read he had KK I believe you, but I think you are obligated to a call, and losing $15+20+35 seems like a fair price for second set. Really weird lines for both of you, in my opinion.

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