What would you do?

[Don]

Noob here> I was playing in Vegas last week at Planet Hollywood.

Playing 1/2:
I’m on the button and the action folds to me. I have a pair of red deuces. I raise to $6. Small blind folds, big blind calls.

Flop: Qc 8c 8d

BB checks, I continuation bet for $6. BB calls.

Turn: 6c

BB checks, I check.

River: 2c

(Four clubs on the board, and I have a boat with Deuces.)

BB leads for $17. I raise another $35. BB jams all in for an additional $110 or so to me.

Call or fold?

[David Dimick]

You should have just called his 17.00, too much connectivity to play around.

[Tim]

call. he might have pocket 8s
he doesnt have q8 or 86. he likely has Ac and has a flush

[Matt Kiefer]

call, what’d he have?

[Jameson]

This is a tough one guys in my opinion. I think it comes down to if he’s ever re-shoving with a nut flush, and I think a lot of players are capable of doing that especially at this level. It’s almost impossible to put you on a full house unless you have 22 exactly because it seems ridiculous to be checking back a full house on the turn when you’d want to build the pot for value. If he can discern any of this, he just may just love his nut flush enough to risk the rest of his stack on it. Also I think you have to raise the river for value.

He can reasonably have AQ, with the ace of clubs, that’s 3 combos
He could have A8 with the 8 of clubs that’s 2 combos, maybe give him 1 that decided not to raise on flop.
He can have all 8 combos of suited aces. So that’s 12 combos you can beat that might shove the river reasonably.

Besides, you have to raise the river because he could have a few king high flushes he might call with in addition to the ace high.

Hands that beat you, well q8, 86, 66, 88. That’s only 15 combos. But also, a portion of the 86 he will check raise the flop, as well as q8 maybe, so you’re looking at even less. I think he has enough ace high flushes you have to call river.

[Don]

Here is the result:

After tanking, I called. He had Q8, for a flopped boat. Was trying to think if I could have folded in that spot. If he’s jamming after I raised, he’s got to have better than a flush right, because I’m at least repping a high flush.

But again at the 1/2 level didn’t know if he was jamming light.

Oh well.

[Jameson]

Like I mentioned, basically you’re only repping 22 exactly so I think he could very well go for it with an ace high flush, which is why I’d call. People definitely have a tendency to share the hands that are bad beats, but it could have turned out he had an ace high flush, but you’re probably not sharing that one huh 😉

Yeah I think a lot of this comes down to how good you think he is. If he’s a better player you can think about folding because he probably wouldn’t reraise with anything less than a full house, but a more rec player may go with their ace high flush full force.

• This reply was modified 7 years, 2 months ago by Jameson.

[Platopoker]

I think you definitely have to call the river, which you did. I feel that Q-8 (which he had), or 6-6 which he didn’t are the most likely realistic (quads 8’s is just too unlikely) hands you are afraid of that can beat you. There are too many other combo’s that you beat including trip 8’s and any high single club type hand. Boat over boat usually is just a cooler that you are destined to lose money on. You took a rough beat but I think you played it right if you are just looking at the river call. Betting the turn would have been an interesting variation to see what he does there. If he raises the turn, which he will do at least a small percentage of the time in that spot, it is an easy fold for you. I always like to think what I could have done differently and how it may have changed the outcome. Also, if you bet the turn and he calls, it is an easier for you to call on the river solely due to the pot to stack ratio. You would still be beat but at least the call on the river is a less difficult decision.

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