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I had a fair bit of a good run rolling until this hand vs the small blind in a fun house game. He’s a loose player that will gamble. Playing 1-2 is high stakes for this kind of game.
Anyway, when the flop came I immediately knew he had an ace. I didn’t put him on a second pair with that board, but that becomes an obvious issue. I’m drawing, but the price is right and I have a big stack on these guys. Turns out they both flopped two pair.
Turn comes and I have the stone cold nuts in my hand and it’s checked to me. I think both players thought I just had an ace and was going to bet for value and they would trap me. I sized it smaller than I otherwise would to keep them interested until I get check shoved for nearly double my bet. Interestingly the BB snap folds with mid-bottom two pair, and I obviously snap call to watch in despair as the lone remaining 4 in the deck hits the felt.
Letting the hand go post flop would have been a tight, but safe move. I would have made the same call again in a similar chip leading position. Would you have run it differently?
On the flop you’re being asked to call 12 to win 49. So you’re getting a little better than 4 to 1. That’s not direct odds to call with a gut-shot, but with implied odds you may be ok.
One question is whether you were floating the flop just to try to hit the straight, or was the plan to bluff at it if the turn was a brick? If you’re ranging your opponents on a lot of one pair hands then you may well have a fair amount of fold equity for a bluff on the turn.
Personally I would probably have folded the flop. But I don’t think your line is bad. It’s just a higher variance route.
Why do people like K10 off, in early or mid position? Its a fold pre. But since u played it, u hit a gut shot. I dont see a problem floating 1 time, u hit the nuts and u got the money in on the turn. Thats what u want. U got coolered and nothing u could have done. U should fold pre, only play that hand in cut off or button with a raise if it folded to folded to u. Or if u are bb and the button rasies u, u can defend with k10off with a 3 bet. And if u are 4 bet u can fold
Outside of the hand itself, I’ve tried to egg on the big blind to several flops who plays pretty loose. I had won a decent sized pot against him a few hands back after I spotted his bluff, so I was eager to stay in the hand with him anyway. In a higher stakes game I probably still would have limped pre and folded before the turn in the same situation, but the value was there to chase the gutter in my mind.
Looking at the straight up odds of all 3 hands, my hand was crushed on the flop with only about an 8% chance of winning. Those odds completely flipped on the turn as my hand became a 95% favorite before getting crushed and cooled.
I’ve been doing a lot more hand analysis on my own before I head to Vegas this week. Thanks for the sanity check.
I agree it’s a fold preflop. That said, I think generally it’s good practice to call one bet with a gutter to the nuts on a rainbow board, when all four of your outs are good. You need to get a return of about 10 times the flop bet to realize your implied odds, which is entirely feasible, and when you don’t bink the stone nuts on the turn, it’s easy to get away from.
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