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Why am I a winning player live, and a losing player online? And how can I fix this?Hey everyone,
So I started taking poker seriously around 13 months ago, only ever playing at Casinos and home games. The first 6 months were almost exactly breakeven, with a combination of me working out what I was doing wrong and playing in an unbeatable rake structure. However, for the last 7 months or so I’ve been playing really well in live settings – possibly some extended run good involved – winning a touch over 8bb/hr in a rake stucture of 10% $15 cap (5bbs), $5 seating charge, $5 change table charge, and $3/30sec of extra thinking time.
I decided I wanted to hone in on my skills online by playing the micros and I’ve done nothing but lose buyin after buyin, mostly at the 2c/5c stake. Due to where I live, I have to play on either ACR or Ignition Casino – I’m currently on Ignition and the software is hot garbage but at least I can play.
Why do you think this phenomenon is occurring and how can I fix it? I feel like I’m playing hands and ranges far worse than I do live, and, frankly, the entire aesthetic of the online poker scene continues to throw me somehow. The lack of cards and chips or something, I don’t know. Has anyone else experienced this and managed to overcome it?
Cheers!
Hey man,
Online requires a completely different skill set. It’s common for a lot of people to who beat live cash games not to be able to win in an online setting. I’m one of them. I haven’t played much online for several reasons but one is that I’m a lifetime loser on there. Probably the most important thing is staying disciplined and not widening up your range. You need to know exactly which hands to play from which positions. I’d recommend checking out one of Upswing’s courses or perhaps a different training site that is specifically for online players.
-Brad
Same here. I’m winning live…different feel…you can see tells…better atmosphere.
Online..somehow, I just cant get a fell of. I can get winning and triple my stack…and then lose it in a moment.
Maybe my big stack management isnt there yet.
2c5c!! People playing those stakes are more apt to open/call with any 2 cards. Losing $3 means very little to anyone. Playing low stakes games online is complete BINGO. up your game to $1/$2 at the very least! a 3x raise to 12c isnt making any draw fold. LOL
I very much disagree with the previous post. Micro stakes require a different approach, but your opponents mistakes equal more $. Live competition is generally much lower. Consider the lowest live game stakes compared to the lowest online. I used to equate .10-.25NL online to 1-2NL live in terms of skill.
Focusing online can be a bit tougher too. Start by really paying attention to every decision, especially preflop.
I’m glad to see this post.
I gave up playing online because of the rake and the fact that I just don’t win in the long run, but I have well above average results in the live game.
I have never been into computer games because I naturally sucked at them, so that may be a subconscious thing for me when I play on line, but the zero rake back makes life really hard on stars, and other sites just don’t have the action for the hours I play being at the bottom of the world.
I have given up on online poker for good and i’m about to move town to live closer to a casino to grind up my roll in the $1-2 to get into the $5-5 games and bigger to make a living.
We don’t have many casino options here in New Zealand. I say stick to the game that makes you money because that builds your confidence.
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