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And this is why I really enjoy the forum , Perspectives. I agree , those responses I have a lot to agree with also. And yes thinking about it again , I wouldn’t fold the 10s but definitely think opening with $30++ to get heads up or 3 way at most. Getting heads up or 3 way to flop, Cbet , makes a nice line, but I think you’re still getting calls on that flop, then the 10 on the turn,,, Rip It.
But what I’m seeing here, reading the forum responses tells me 10s are definitely not an easy hand any way you look at, and apparently they are played various ways. Fantastic !!THANKS for posting this great hand !!
Joe,
As submitted I’ll give an input, but some details are missing about the players.
First I believe this is a fold preflop. You’re OOP and the straddle/btn has taken your preflop position away. You’re running the risk of playing your 10’s multiway and getting a cascade of over-callers ( as a 1/2 game is prone to) does the straddler like to 3 bet? ( as most straddlers do),this could’ve had you in a bad spot. One of Your targets is btn/straddler and IMO his stack is a little small to set mine against.
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As played Hero fires $20, I’d like to fire $30 using the 15-20x’s rule when set mining and targeting your villain with the equal stack. If you’re kicking open the saloon doors at O.K Corral and have 8 guns pointing back at you, you might want a 357 Mag not the .22 you just pulled out. But we’re here lets see how fast our trigger finger is, Drum roll , The flop .. and,, puke … saggy violin sound the gun deflates, “check” .. a little light at the end of tunnel, villain that has the proper stacks for your set mine has fired $50,( 1/10 of our stack) we’re here let’s peel one, you got you’re heads up, with the right villain, that’s fine (or is iT…)
So we’re wanting a 10 ( we have the 10c bonus) BUT the 10 makes a lot of draws and improves a lot of draws. MP over calling pre with A,x,clubs says to me he could have a lot of hands here. QJc, J9c,K8s,K10s,67c,on and on, I wouldn’t have excluded AKo.
Turn you get gin plus villain is firing ($125) you fire back ($300) with $125 behind….. at this point the board is very wet, this is a Jam. As you say you’ve committed yourself to the fight, what is $125 ( into 800) going to do on the river that it wouldn’t do on the turn. Personally if I’ve gotten to the turn and my Gin card hits plus I’m OOP and the board is this wet, this is an open JAM. Did you want a fold when min raising the turn or a call?
The poker God’s had the spot light on you with the right villain. I think a lot could’ve gone wrong here,
Hope you enjoy the feed back, I’m no pro just a grinder and enjoy talking poker and reading all these posts.GolfGuru
going for min raise might have gotten calls ( as played) , then Value bet the river. You’re begging for KK, QQ,(which should have 3 bet preflop) KJs, KXs, 77 is possible here. You fold out a lot here with aggression ( as played). What happens when Ks, Js, 10s, 7 hits river and you get check raised ( jammed into) for a cooler. Your looking for some very specific hands to be here and preflop actions tells you their not holding your dream cards. The picture I get with your Topic is , If the BB didn’t 3 bet and over called with JJ, how is he calling when he gets raised . You might also have missed a thin value ($32-$38 or 3/4+ pot looks like a bluff IP) on the flop, your in position and a thin bet would look like a position bet on the flop, which villains would more likely peel one on the flop than the turn. And if your villains are leading out and over calling with JJ by the turn, i’d say no need to trap, they’re already on the hook for the flop. Taking the risk to induce ( when I flop monsters) backfires on me to often. Get your values out of monsters and bet them like bluffs in position.
