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Hey Brad, appreciate the response. Feel free to use the hand on your vlog if you think it’ll help people. I’m a scrub right now who has played less than 20 hours of poker in a casino and less than that at home games so I’m going to make mistakes, just have to learn from them. I could’ve opened for less and hoped to get raised so I could 3bet. If so, more money would’ve been in the pot and I still likely bet the flop. I just don’t see how I could check and let a 4th spade come. You and the other responder know way more than me so I guess the correct play is to bet less after the flop. Honestly, I hate playing the first hand, I feel like I need a few minutes to get settled in but I couldn’t fold aces so I was really just hoping to announce I have aces with my $20 preflop and watch it fold around.
My $50 bet wasn’t really a value bet, more of a I don’t want to be playing this hand out of position with that flop so you guys fold and let’s move on type of bet. I just thought it was unlikely he would flop a flush and there wasn’t any straight or 2 pair hand possibilities so I bet it. Let’s say I bet $35 and he calls, should I then check the turn? A 4 of hearts or whatever blank it was on the turn would only make me feel better about my hand if I thought I was best after the flop. If I checked the turn and a spade came on the river I’d have an easy fold but I’d prefer to not give the free card if I think I’m ahead. If I was ahead and checked the turn and my opponent rivered a spade I’d be kicking myself for a missed bet.
I guess I could’ve gotten away from it after he raised all in but with $195 in and $105 to call to win $600 it just seemed like I had to call. I’m not good with the numbers yet but in my mind the numbers said I had to call. I’m also aware that as a newbie in the poker world I could possibly stick out so in the back of my mind I didn’t want to get bluffed off my hand just because of a scary flop. It’s probably unlikely someone would bluff in that scenario but I just couldn’t find a fold.
Once again, thanks for the reply. I know I’m not good so this information is super helpful. Maybe I’m looking at it wrong but don’t I want to bet when I’m ahead and/or a favorite to win the pot? Pardon my simpleness. So his call pre flop could be with a wide range considering his late position and it’s the first hand so I have limited information on him. After the flop my bet is large because I read that a smaller raise will get more calls and a larger raise will fold out the draws. At this point I’m in ep with 2 people behind me.
When co calls I start going through possible hands again and although I have blockers AQ becomes a possibility with the A of spades. I know have blockers so him having an A is unlikely but isn’t it unlikely to flop a flush as well? Especially since the suited connector high spades seemed to be blocked other than K J and J10 and 9 10. Flop call made me think I had him right where I wanted him, figuring he would raise if he had a flush or hit trips. When the turn blanked I figured I was in the lead and the large bet was defending my hand against any draw or 2 pair suck out.
Normally I don’t bet this big but I think I fell in love with my hand and just thought the odds were in my favor. Could I be drawing dead, of course, but it just didn’t seem likely to me at the time. Maybe in a limped pot or called small raise pre flop I would put my opponent on any 2 spades but he called a large pre flop raise from an EP raiser so that narrowed his hand range down in my mind. The Qs on board blocked hands like QJ and KQ and my aces blocked AK so him having the flush was even less likely in my mind.
Thanks again. I appreciate your valuable information when it comes to the math of the hand.
Thanks for your analysis and helpful insight. Since this was the first hand of a new table I was afraid a $10-$12 raise would get a bunch of calls and not allow me the chance to 3bet. After his call pre flop I thought he may have a pocket pair with a spade or maybe ako with either being a spade. When the turn blanked I figured I was in the lead and most likely needed to fade a spade so checking and giving a free card seemed out of the question. If he had any of the hands above I want to bet and make him pay for the draw since I’m likely not getting paid on the river by a pair. In my mind, I’d be happy to take it down with my turn bet. If he just had 1 spade he’d have outs but I would have more outs since I’d have any non spade or card that didn’t trip him up. Newbie thought process
