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I guess I count as a Cherokee regular. I’m up there 2-3 times a month, which is not a lot but enough for some of the dealers and supervisors to be familiar with me. GA resident as well in Banks County, so Cherokee is about an hour and 45 minutes straight up 441. I’ll be there during WSOP the 12th-15th and again on the 18-19th, mostly gonna play cash but will be firing at the $250 $25k guarantee on April 12th.
If you rule out him having AA, and him being MP I would certainly hope he isn’t just calling there if that’s what he has, you literally have 3 combos of pocket 99’s you are worried about here. Aside from that, assuming he is betting with either two pair or a flush draw, I think you are far enough ahead to make this a good shove. Or I could be completely wrong… I think I’d shove here as well though.
Thanks for the feedback.
David, it hadn’t occurred to me that 2/5 is a less passive game than 1/2. I will definitely keep that in mind.
allin67, good points there. Honestly can’t say that I know exactly what I’m looking for and how I would decide if it’s successful or not. My initial thought is that I would be less frustrated in a game with less chance to run into ATC players, but on the other hand I’ve never been stacked in a 2/5 game so I’m not really sure how that would go over for me either.
I’m gonna keep thinking it over for a while though. It may come down to a split second decision at the moment I walk into a poker room again. Walking in with several buy ins for a 1/2 has always been more comfortable to me than walking in with one buy in for 2/5, which is another reason I’ve stuck to 1/2 mainly. Where I play the 2/5 has a buyin of $200-$1,000 max or table stakes, which why you would sit down at 2/5 with $200 is beyond me. In any case, if I do hit the 2/5 streets I’ll update with how it’s going.
I agree with Robert, the amount of time that somebody has been at the table makes a difference. What personally bothers me is when somebody sits down and plays maybe 4 hands, gets lucky and doubles up, then runs off. If I take down a big pot, I try to play another 20 minutes or so after to avoid the image of being that person that leaves immediately. That way nobody can accuse me of not giving them the chance to win the money back.
For example, Monday afternoon I was playing at Harrah’s Cherokee and was on a table that the floor opened right around 3PM and I was just gonna play until 4 so I could go check into my hotel room. Sat down with $200 and that hour was running good for me, right at 4 I scooped a nice pot that put me up to about $550 and even though my initial plan was to leave at that time, I decided to play for a little while longer. I played a few more orbits and saw a few flops, put maybe $30 back on the table and then I racked up and left. There was nothing that said I had to stay there after taking down that last pot, but I just felt like staying a little while longer was the right thing to do as I was not pressed for time. Others won’t view it that way, but it’s personal choice.
My observation is also that usually those who hit and run at a poker table are not really poker players at all. They walked by the room and wanted to try it out so they buy in for the minimum. Then they double up because they took their A to the river where they made a backdoor flush (because an A is the winner no matter what is on the board right?), then they jump off the table and run to find their friends and brag about being a poker god after their first ever session which lasted 15 minutes. Not saying actual players don’t hit and run sometimes, but I don’t see that as often.
Thanks for the feedback guys. Taking away that I need to work on bet sizing, definitely noted. One thing I have noticed about my playing, unless I have the nuts I hardly pay any attention to the size of the pot. I will admit I’ve developed a bad habit somewhere along the way of making my bets based on the size of my last bet. Don’t ask me where that came from because I couldn’t tell you. And as often as I tell myself to stop doing that, at the table all game plans go out the door.
Chuck, good point about him not knowing how I play either!
In all honesty, I’d probably say a few expletives, fold, then kick myself for folding and just hope to see that I made the right decision after it’s all over with. Tough spot for sure.
Yeah I agree with John here. It seems kinda weird to look at, but with your stack size if you had gone to the turn with only about $60 behind, it’s pretty obvious it’ll go into the pot. Plus jamming for another $60 on top of what they had already put in there wouldn’t run them off at this point. If you had another $4-500+ behind then just continue with the check calling would be the route to take.
The bragger: Tries desperately to talk himself up by dropping names of pros and how he has either met/played with them or read their books, such as Doyle Brunson, Phil Hellmuth, Daniel Negreanu, etc. Feels the need to tell the table how he would have played any hand that goes to show down. He is generally younger, and his personal play is less than impressive.
Thanks for the reply Brad. After the hand was over I was thinking I had basically turned my hand into a bluff. If it had not been for some of the strange things I had seen these two doing over a few hours I probably would have folded in that situation. It left asking myself “what the hell just happened” for a good while after it was over.
Good advice from Laurens for sure. Something I’ve run across in tournaments is that when people get short stacked they often will jam all in slightly looser than they would in cash games…KQ, KJ, QJs, AXs, etc. At times I’ve seen lower suited connectors jam. Just something to keep in mind. Also if it is a rebuy tournament make a note of where the cut off for rebuy happens. I can’t count how many people I’ve seen jam with any two cards right before the rebuy period ends just to try and either double up or go buy back in. Good luck and let us know how it turns out!
The 1/2 does max buy in for $200 but don’t mistake that for small play. I’ve seen plenty good sized pots at those tables, I’ve taken down a few that were over $600 myself. A handful of times I’ve seen people walk off those tables with over $1,000.
Now the 2/5 games on the other hand, people will bust and rebuy for $2,000 often. There’s one guy that I see up there frequently who usually sits down with $5k to play with. Plenty big action if that’s what you are looking for. 5/5 PLO gets pretty big action as well.
It may have been going to 150/300 on the next level, but we were playing 100/200 at that moment. There is a weird jump in the blind levels in their tournaments somewhere that doesn’t make a lot of sense to me because instead of doing something logical like moving from 100/200 to 150/300 it just starts doubling the blinds at each level. If it wasn’t here that goes to 200/400 then it was gonna happen the level after that. But in any case we were 100/200 here for sure.
Yeah, I guess probably reverse tell is probably a better way to describe it. I get angle shooting and know that wasn’t really the definition of it, but that was the closest thing I could think to label it.
