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600 in a 1-3 game in 2.5 hours sounds like you were playing tons of hands out of position.
My suggestion would be to look up and review basic recommend starting hands from each position, memorize them. However before you do that, do some physical exercise, gym, walk, etc and take a few days off from poker, don’t rush back in to playing as you more than likely going to be chasing losses.
You are at least ahead of the game in knowing you played bad and aren’t blaming others, that’s big and a sign you can get better.
Definitely Spot on there Robert.
Yeah watching it play out was a bit surreal especially when they flipped their hands over. If it had been one less person in the hand or I had been in a different position I would have gone all in but I just had such an “odd feeling” about the hand, and being in an early position that I didn’t feel comfortable with the call. As know when you play this game long enough, you know the emotions the guy with JJ is feeling, praying for the board to pair. Or 1010 who thinks yes a set and finds out he is losing to an overset. It was about 1200 plus night for me so I was happy plus I got a cool story to share that didn’t cost me money to share it lol.AA vs a random hand you are 4 to 1 favourite every time. Against one player I will call all day every time. Here’s a cool story from the West Palm Kennel Club of a hand I was involved in earlier this month.
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Me: $1500 EP AA Raise $15
two folds
Vil1:$700 MP1 ?? Reraise $75
1 fold
Vil2:$1000 MP3 Reraises $250
2fold
Vil3:$2700 But Calls $250
Vil4:$2200 SB Calls $250
Me: Folds
V1: surprisingly just callsI have the best hand preflop but with 2 reraises, and 2 callers behind the reraises, I figure someone also has aces, or my other two aces are dead. Against 4 other random hands, I figure I’m a slight underdog or a massive dog if someone has my hand. Out of position and 4 others to act behind me with what they are all representing, I said “f it” and folded Aces preflop and tell the dealer to keep off to the side of the muck.
Flop comes 10 J 7 rainbow
Vil1: All in around $450
Vil2: All in around $750
Vil3: All in around $2500
Vil4: All in around $1900They take a few moments to get the pot right, floor comes over and confirms it.
Pot 1 $2815
Pot 2 $1200
Pot 3 $2085They all agree to show their hand
Vil 1: kk
Vil 2: JJ
Vil 3: 98s
Vil 4: 1010Turn is 6 and the river is a 2
Vil 3 took down about a 6100 pot with a straight and would have been higher had I not folded. I yelled over to the Button I folded Aces, and he says “I’ll give you a 100 right now if you show it”, tell the dealer to flip them over and he laughs and throws me a 100 chip.
Hey Max
Welcome to the boards and the poker community at large. Been playing myself since I was 17…20 years later I am still learning and the game has evolved tremendously since I started playing.
Is a pretty good basic learning site that I would recommend someone new learning from. You can learn anything from the lingo to basic recommendations for starting hands etc…
Good luck to you
Cheers
FirestonHey Hoon,
There is no rule that says when you Can cash out. When I started playing live 20 years ago (can’t believe I just wrote 20) I would set a soft goal of when I was leaving, it would be either up 50% of buy in or 4 hours. I stated playing 1-2NL with a 200 buy in so once I hit over 100, I would wait one full blind and leave. I would then evaluate play and plan my next trip to the poker room. Especially in the low limits with players ranges being so “diverse” it can be challenge with hand reading and deciding what hands to play so I pretty much either left up or even. That would be my suggestion, try it for a month and evaluate and see if it works for you.
Hey Tom,
Not sure if you will get this message but thank you for the Book recommendation. I read it and definitely took some good information out of it.Toho,
Here’s my two cents (Please take constructively)
I think you should have called the River and I think the way you played this hand ended up costing you money when you should have won a big pot.
You wrote after the Flop:
Pot has $17, You flopped a straight, checked, he bet 10 and you just called. You have the best hand atm with no value extracted and doesn’t look like you put him on a hand.I think the better play would have been check, he bets, you reraise to 45. Pot is now 75 with 35 to call. If he calls you could better define his range, which if he does here I’m putting him on Ace King and if he Reraises me I’m thinking he has a set. I think you played this hand way too passively for the position you were in.
Let’s say he calls your raise: $110 in the pot Turn is the Ks, you can either bet or check-raise because we put him on A-K. I would check and whatever he bets times it by 4 or push all in. If he calls, you still have the best hand and need to avoid the board pairing which should put you around an almost 80% favourite.
Final note-a tank check is a sign of weakness, he may have had trip kings and figured you missed the flush/or a draw with his final bet based on the tanking.
I was born in East Liver Pool Ohio and still visit the area. Very Familiar with Mountaineer. In fact our casino manager here in Fort Pierce Florida just came from there.
Hey Kevin
I am always “uneasy” when players start acting out of the norm. When someone in a hand stands up, or starts talking or acting out, I feel it violates the “spirit of the game” but not the actual game itself. As soon as someone is physically acting in an aggressive manner, I think their hand is weak because they are trying to prevent a bet or call. I think you are totally right and normal to be like “what the hell is going on here/ what did I just witness”
Good job knowing there was no way he had pocket Queens, pre-flop there should have been a reraise, and a reraise if there was a bet into him on the flop and he was trying to be sneaky by just calling pre-flop.
I do think MP misplayed his hand from the get-go. Ace-8 isn’t a great hand to play in a multi player pot because of the odds of being outkicked or behind to a pair going to the Flop are pretty good. I think either a reraise to 60 or a fold would have been better. If he does that, I think outside the small blind, he gets at least two to fold, and if not all three and he loses just 18. If he raises and the button calls, with a c bet on the flop, the button has to put MP on a stronger hand, and there is no way he shoves. I think Button put him on an 8 and figured he could get him off the 8 with a large bet as soon as a higher card came on the turn or river.
Not saying I’m always right in hand reading but the with a $5 straddle and all in $13 more reraise this really is like limping into the pot for anyone that is calling and with 3 callers in front of me, I’m thinking Ace weak, K-2, Q-J-8, suited connects, and if someone reraises me on a flop a small pocket pair that hit their set or two pair but since i’m the jackball playing 2-4 very doubtful two pair.
8-3-2 on the flop being on the button, seeing just calling preflop with 2 bets flop and turn, yeah pretty sure he has 8 something, so I just need to hit a 2, 4 or higher card than an 8 to get him off the hand.
Strength means weakness, weakness means strength. I think they were both trying to gather information and make the other fold. The button as you said is a reg, and looks like he knew how to play the situation to profit from it. Ask yourself what is the purpose of MP counting out the chips then standing up and saying “its all profit anyway”. He is trying to get a response to make the guy throw his hand away because he wasn’t sure the strength of his own hand. If anything I think both players were pushing the line of ethical/appropriate table behaviour, I just think the button was better at playing that game than the MP.
On another note, button told the table before it went to the flop he had a very weak hand. Sorry in advance:)
My two cents.
