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Hi Lincoln,
90% 9-6
10% 9-5
Could be suitedFloating with a gutshot or calling with OESD , hit a higher pair compare to the flop still have his straight draw raised min raised the turn with intention to check back river for pot ctrl. Now hit triple 9, thinking it the best hand go for Valor bet because with his play on the turn, he probably put u on Overpair. Do he look surprised when u show him 9-10
Hey Chris
Usually ppl don’t lead out after getting 3bet especially after flopping a set. I think he leaded out to find out where he was then a J drop now he try to represent triple J but still get called. His weak river bet tell alot coz this kind of player when they got u crushed, they don’t leave money behind the all-in is less then a pot size bet. Maybe I’m wrong my read for his hand is he never have a flush for sure here is well disguise if he do have it, he will shove all-in, same for a straight. I put him on hands like 9-10, 9-8, (9-7) get conterfeit not suited spade of course. He is a maniac just don’t want to check showing weakness that may explain his weak river bet. Hope I could help glHi Chuck
Your 3bet was standard but in this particular situation, u should make it around 40-50 try to induce the 100$ to shove. Happy to gamble 100$ with AK here for sure. The guy on the BTN, I got no clue why he called anyway, it FOLD or SHOVE situation for him. Yeah about the flop, there no decision at all in this situation Chuck, this hand should be auto play whatever the flop come out u never check here, it automatic all-in for u. I call it SITUATION POKER (poker de situation) whatever will be will be. GL ChuckAgainst this kind of action player it obviously a call here, expected to be good most of the time if not the money is still there to be retake. I been playing poker for awhile, had seen alot bad players taking weird line with their different hands.sometime they don’t even know what to do then decide to make this kind of weird move. I do believe villain don’t have the nut here. He is on a draw I think, floating with QJ KJ then get a straight draw then shove. at least he knew he was behind but still try to bluff anyway hoping for a fold.
Yeah some people are just doing what came across their mind at that moment. Even worst case maybe villain holding 34 36.Hey steeser
I’m a 2-5 player myself from Montreal.
I will definitely play this hand differently then u… btw i’m a LAG player maybe this is why I chose a different line.You FP: raise Flop: C/C
Me FP: raise Flop: C/RSo u chose to C/C on the flop (villain think u don’t beat top pair).
U C/C again at the turn
(Again villain think u don’t beat top pair).
At the river u lead out for around 1/5 of the pot
(Again villain think u don’t beat top pair…this is block bet) so he raise to 375
Villain could have a mediocre K suited here on the BTN, I didn’t say he couldn’t have a 4, he could have 34 45 46 etc…
Let don’t forget K4s that will be sick lol.Ok with my line now with C/R on the flop, all the actions has change completely. The raise will be around 170$, villain will probably fold his bad K and not many small pocket that he don’t want to raise in position with. But be careful the 4 is in villain rang. If we don’t get the fold we will CB the turn, and now we will make a good bet to get all the K that didn’t fold to fold!!! Now the pot (470$) we bet around 350$, if villain still calling it bcoz he is a real donkey or he probobly have the 4, I don’t think he have a hand like KT and BTN limp unlease other limper is a real nit. TT raise FP.
( we could check turn for pot ctrl too depending on the way villain reacted to our C/R).So villain still calling the turn now the pot is 1170$, u say ur stack is 1300 but got villain cover, let assume villain started the hand with 1000$, he don’t have much left 40+170+350=560 so 440$ left villain could shove turn in our face with a 4 or trap us to bet river if we don’t bet river then he can still shove. We ( I ) will probably call him off if he shove the turn. Remember I’m a LAG player so people play less tight again me so I called that doesn’t mean im gonna win the hand lol.
If he don’t shove turn , for sure I will shove river coz of the ratio bet seize compare to pot seize, I will call him off anyway right. Let get the Valor from all the hands that we beat.GLHF at the table
The board texture doesnt change flop to river. Villain will never fold top pair or even any other pairs in this spot, after u check the turn. Sometime u can check the turn for pot ctrl . Most of the time when u bet, check, bet, ppl will alway call with marginal hands. Let me guess, villain snap call u .
Anyway I don’t think your line is a good one , this is a -ev play for sure
Gl hf at the table
Sup Alex from a Montrealer
There already a couple comments above talking about how to play the hand so I’m a skip that part.
But i notice 2 interesting details that could help assign villain rang here1) the 12$ PF raise by villain
Sb,Bb,3 callers = 9$ death money if villain has a hand like JJ or QQ, I think the PF raise should be little more probably around 18$. With 12$ PF villain could have other holding such at Q9,J9..the boat at the turn that beat us but wait,let go to point #2 before giving villain Q9,J9
2) pretty weird amount of villain 4 bet
U C/R his 20$ to 66$, villain 4 bet it to 120$. After your C/R If villain is a decent player like u say, his thinking should be..u flop a straight or u have 9x, so maybe full house for u. Again if villain have a strong hand here such at a full house (straight probably just call) his 4bet seizing should be more around 140-150$ to setup his river shove. But instead of that villain almost minraise (the gap is 46 btw). Let put us on villain shoe… what would we do
We r not gona make that small 4bet right? We will just call the raise in position and let our opponent fire the river then we shove. I may have an idea why villain 4bet that small, surely villain want to have the lead at the river, he don’t want to face a big bet from u if he flatted, it a kind of pot ctrl.With this 2 details combine together. Now we could assign our villain rang.
1 pair type hand at the flop +
sort of SD
2 pairs type hand at the flop QJ
But not Q9,J9Lately villain revealed he has J10 that includes on the 1 pair type hand + SD, villain may tell the true after all.
The river bet was not part of villain plan at all .. impulsive bet.
The final result:
we snap call the river!!!
We won $$$
Thank you mr.villain $!!$Hi Chuck there some points in your reply that I want to share my thought with u.
1- she could raise u with NFD why?
A: Bc if the turn miss, she could fire again (agressive player)
B: Check turn free river (with this line she could decide the prize of the turn)2- the turn did not improve your hand, u still have Q high but u did add some outs. Ok let say we don’t know what villain had. On the flop u got 36% maybe 12% more from your 2 over cards…around 48% that almost a coin clip, (me personally I will never fold this hand on the flop unlease I pick up some tell). Once again let say we have only the FD on that flop it 36% win rate. Now at the turn our win rate has drop to 30% compare to 36%. We know we was behind right, we never going to C/R here. We never going to shove either, why adding more money in the middle when the odd isn’t in our favor. C/C or C/F here is standard (pot 65 + 50 from villain turn bet + 35 from implies odd villain will pay off if we hit) so total is 150$, we only call 50 to win 150, pot odd is 1/3 and our chance to made our hand is 30% it almost 1/3 so we are pretty even here.
3- like I say before I’m not going to fold to a raise on the flop. Villain will never over bet shove our flop bet with the nut or a strong holding.
Go Habs go !!!
Hi Chuck, me 2 I’m from Montreal.I’m a 2-5 player. Sometime I play 1-2 waiting for 2-5 table at the casino MTL. After viewing your hand, the way u played it was terrible, u did too many mistakes, bet seizing, the reraise on the turn… was awful, and some small details that can safe u alot money. Ex: earlier u say villain was a women right, there some exception but generally women only put money in with the good, the turn minraise…btw Chuck no offense to you but your game need more improvement.I’m glad that we share the same passion, I use to learn poker in the Internet too, here one of my favorite website that help improve my game alot (pokerlisting.com). Good luck Chuck
Your PF raise isn’t big enough, checking it fine on the flop,at the turn , if u thing u will get raise then why bet? but if u still decide to bet then u should chose a better sizing to make sure hand like KQ KT TT 99 can’t call (pot odd).after betting small on the turn , checking the river showing that your weak,BTN could be shoving with KQ KT here after missed draw with no showdown Valor. I don’t think BTN have a J here (he mostly raise your small bet on the turn with a J). He will almost never shove 175 with an ace here either to a (around) 190 pot with BB still in the hand, BB could be stricky checking 3 time with J , especially when none of u and BTN showing to have a strong holding
