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Coming to the table with my 6 cents!
Nice to meet you SeaBass!
After reading through your hand history i think I would prefer a check on the flop. It is really hard to flop a flush and even though you did it with such ease I think a good player will still C-bet this flop by trying to take it down. I would assume he would definetly be C-betting with top set.
After the 2d comes you can either check and see if he shuts down or if he continues. If he shuts down then you will have a better betting option on the river. If the player bets again you have the option to check raising to get your stack in good and not worry about awkward sizing.
Lastly, if you lead out on the turn you can lead out small to set up a pot size bet on the river. If the player decides to push on with 4 diamonds on the board he will probably do so with a smaller and bigger bet so you are at least giving yourself an option on the river if the board does pair to re-evaluate.
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Hey Matt!
Sounds like a great game to be part of :). As the action goes I would take this as a fold at the stack depth we have. We are deep stacked and risking a lot. We don’t know if our Ace is any good if we do hit it and we are currently only playing for the flush. We have 13- (2 whole hards) – 2 (flop cards) for our 9 outs. This is best case scenario if our two opponents don’t have any diamonds currently in their hand (As they didn’t). For this reason of how many outs plus the stack depth I would lean towards a fold with the action in front of me as a lead out into two opponents plus a raise and a 3-bet.
If you do decide to call the 3 bet raise, I would agree that you have to now call off the rest of the stack as the price is becoming better for you with how much can be won.
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Hello Noam!
Tricky situation for sure on how this all played out. I don’t know if I am following the action appropriately and therefore want to make sure I am or my analysis will be different.
Currently, this is how i read it.
SB- 5
BB – 5
ST – 10
1 L- 10
2 L – 10
3 L – 10
Hero – 75If this was the case i would definetly have to say that your raise here has to be a lot more. Before you raise there is $50 in the pot ( if I am reading this correctly) and therefore the SB is getting 1.78 to 1 to call and that is before everyone else is left to act. I would size up here to make sure we protect the third best hand created (before the flop 🙂 ).
This may change the 3 limpers to your raise and will likely change the action going forward.
With how the hand played out, I would be more inclined to fold because we don’t have a redraw with the Qd in our hands and there are the two players we have behind us. His initial shove seems like a big draw as he looks like he is trying to win this outright without having a hand at that moment.
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Hello Rokas!
I am with Chuck on this one with how the hand played out it is tough to fold this. You are a the top of your range and all flush draws missed.
There are fewer hands that beat you than you beat for what he/she could have in this instance.
If I was going to change anything, I would look to more of a check raise approach on the turn. The second heart shouldn’t of helped him more times than not and if he does have a heart draw you are charging him the max to get there with it. There is always the risk he would check back the turn but with leading out on a dry board I would assume he would take a second stab at the pot again on the turn.
The river bet is a call and he just happens to have one of few hands that beats you.
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hey Yazzie! I am going to be coming to play in Detroit in October and would love to meet up if you are playing that month.
My take on the hands would be as follows and would always love your feedback too.
HAND 1: I like your pre-flop raise sizing as we don’t want to scare them off and we have position for later streets. On the turn after he checks to you and the third spade arrives, I think this has to be a check back. It was a dry flop and to call your continuation bet would put him on a flush more than two pair. if he has a smaller set than we won’t be in bad shape either.
As well, if he does have the flush this will give you the opportunity to try and catch a card on the end to fill up.The big question will be what to do when/if he leads out on the river. With his hand we can assume that he will probably lead out and we are short stacked. I would be inclined to fold and top up because of his call on such a dry flop but we are close to the top of our range and can’t fault you for calling down. This would be more a judgment on the player and information you have but as you said you just switched tables so its a tough spot.
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HAND 2: Tough spot!
I like the raise pre flop as you have a wide range in the CO and this will be a better play in the long run to not allow players to catch on to what hands you are and are not raising. With that being said, we get a juicy flop of j-9-7 for lower set. When BB donks out, this will most likely be a weak hand trying to take a stab at the pot with such a connected board. Once the UTG raises, the players still has MP and yourself the initial raiser to deal with and worry about getting shoved over the top. The board is very connected and with such action before hand I would be inclined to fold. The board is so connected that his range of hands is vast with flush draws, over pairs (if played tricky), straight draws like you said earlier. Its again a tough fold but with the action in front i would fold and know that you are the better player at the table and will pick up hands to make money later in the session
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There is always a couple ways of playing hands depending on what decisions you make on earlier streets.
One option is going for a check-raise approach on the flop as you have an overpair and want to see what the Villain does first. Of course, we have to assess the risk that if he is on a flush draw now he may take the free card and see what comes. He may also bet as well and you can limit the size of the pot with a check call approach.
I would probably check on this flop with the intention of check-calling.
As played, I would take the same approach to the turn as the 2 should not of changed any action and you are either way ahead or way behind. I would check-call as I feel 10s are too good to be folding at this junction.
Lastly, as played after he calls the turn bet i would continue the story of a big over paid or a 9 by putting out a *Small* value better/blocker better. If you get raised you probably know you aren’t going to be good the majority of the time, however, this approach you don’t allow him to barrel the river and not know where you are in the hand.
This would be my approach but would love to hear from you on any disagreements or agreements you have as its a good way for myself to challenge my thinking.
Cheers
GuyJohn is right here! I misread and didnt realize there was a raise to 7 and counted it as alimp call
sorry!
guy
Hey Sean!
I Looked over the hand and I would first say I think your initial bet would be a little too big. I figure that you are looking to not get called by weak hands but in the long run I think a lot of hands will be folding to that size bet and you won’t get your value for your pocket Kings.
For the hand, I think its a good fold seeing as there was a lead out from first to act with two players behind. After the 2nd villain raises the board and I don’t have the King of spades in my hand it would be a reluctant fold.
Hopefully this helps ease the fold!
Guy
Hello Josiah,
I think this is a hand that is lost on the pre-flop pay. I think the limp into the pot is what leads to being stuck in this position with a tough decision. I think it would be best on a raise or fold depending on table dynamics. You would have to raise a good size to get the limpers to fold too. If you got to this river point though, I would say that it would be hard for him to have a bluff here and most times that not will have a strong hand. I would look towards a fold in this position.
Cheers,
GuyHey Gil!
I would of probably looked forward to a three bet in late position with a strong hand as AQs. This would probably lead to you 3-betting your whole stack to hopefully have the individual fold, however, like said in other posts you wouldn’t be able to get away from this hand.
Good luck going Forward,
GuyI would learn towards a raise in your spot to try and do your get small hands to fold if necessary. At the end of the day, JJ’s don’t play the best as we know but we can evaluate on the flop. If the flop is a brick and leads you with an over paid than thats a good situation to re-evaluate and proceed. If a flop comes that may not be advantageous, then you can let it go if you believe that you are dominated. My last thought would be on your stack size and how much this raise would be committing you to this part. Sound like you knew what you wanted to do, but just hated the situation. Would love to come play sometimes at the “zoo” as I am looking to travel a little more and meet some new people.
All the best!
