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I’ve found sometimes those type of players respond to aggression. Just as long as you don’t do it all the time. Like Jonathan Little says, maniacs know they are maniacs, so if another player bets aggressively at them, well they must be crazy too.
If you pick your spots correctly and win a couple pots this way, he will start to play you a lot more straight up when you are in a hand with him.
Also chances are he knew he could push you around since you were so early in your session and likely wouldn’t want to get felted right out of the chute.
The fact that you got 3 bet and one caller behind is a dream scenario for pocket aces pre-flop. I probably either would’ve smooth called or maybe 4 bet min raised. This allows you to keep control of the hand without blowing it up yet keeping the fishies on the line, then if the board is right post flop you can work on extracting value. On the other hand if the board is wet you can proceed with caution. I would never be content to just steal dead money with the best hand pre-flop ever invented.
The fact that you four bet so big then also bet big to lead out post flop just screams a AK. Those signals gave the pro everything he needed to blow you off the hand. It’s even possible he missed the flop and has nothing more than a pocket pair or worse yet has been bluffing you all along with his position.
Since you are out of position and under stacked vs the pro I agree with Chuck, your move is shove likely inducing a fold. If you call and miss he’s likely going to lean on you until you either fold and lose a big chunk of your hard earned stack, or post flop shove and probably lose it all. However his open for $15k is a standard open with $5k big blind so good chance you are ahead. But the fact remains you are out of position on a guy that has you stack dominated. Just win the hand while you can and wait until you have position and your 20 or so big blinds left to play him post flop.
Wow well played Trent! Unless I was totally locked into SB’s range and betting habits I would have gotten felted for sure.
I agree with Craig, his over bet on the flop screams no J. He did you a huge favor and revealed something very key about his hand and where you stood at that exact moment. If you come over the top of him and bet $450 (roughly the size of the pot plus match of his $200) I bet he folds because now he thinks you have the J or maybe even Qs, Ks or As. Either way he likely knows he’s beat and hopefully will feel like it’s too expensive to chase his draw.
I agree, had you opened for $15 or $20 UTG opening strong from that position shows strength. Because of that my guess is the button just smooth calls with the 8s.
Guessing from there if you continue to show strength and apply the right pressure, you may get him to fold his set before the river since he will likely correctly perceive you are repping the flush taking a strong line from UTG.
