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Thanks for the feedback guys! I agree with you all 100% just figured I would see what others thought about them. That all makes complete sense. Best of luck to you all as well!
Sorry for the repost, but I woke up and realized I remembered the hand wrong. I actually wasn’t first to act and the UTG+2 was since UTG straddled. Everyone folded to the Button who raised to $12. I just smooth called with my A,Qsuited and the BB folded and the UTG straddler raised to $25. Then button called and I called. The rest is the same with me leading after the flop with UTG raising ALL-in and us both calling. So is there anything else I could have done different or found a fold after the flop or pre-flop?
Hey Ken,
I think you are correct in that it’s way too tight of a fold because of he is an aggressive winning player and you raised to $15 pre-flop if he had pocket Q he would most likely have re-raised you then. So if you eliminate that then he most likely isn’t calling your raise with 6,8 or 5,7. So you can eliminate the straight possibility there. If he did play 9,10 then he most likely isn’t gonna raise you 2xpot with a double gutter. So basically you should have his range narrowed down to either a pair of queens (which I think is likely here and he doesn’t want you catching a king or ace) or pocket 6’s or pocket 8’s. That being said if he is an aggressive good player he most likely isn’t gonna raise you if he flopped his set because he will wait for the turn and then see if you bet again and he will raise you there and get more value from his hand. I think the obvious play here with that kind of dry board and him raising you 2x pot is to shove here and either he has a set or he folds a queen with a good kicker. You still have quite a bit of equity here and too much to fold. I think you should have either called his raise and used a bit of pot control if you were worried about him having a set and then saw the turn. You had mentioned you thought he may have ace, queen as a reason for folding for fear an ace would hit. That is the wrong way to think about it. If he has ace,queen here that is precisely what you want here because he may be caught with a decision and call you off if you shoved knowing he’s drawing to only 6 outs to beat you. Your odds are pretty good with that scenario. In the end I definitely think that was way too tight of a fold and often times getting it all in with top one pair isn’t a bad thing on the flop. He may have read you a bit if you had played for long and figured out that you fold one pair hands and only wait for monsters. That could be a leak in your game and something you should work on when it comes to being comfortable with betting with single pair hands. Good learning situation though.Thanks guys! Both your responses make perfect sense. You’re correct dave in getting value and that’s what I was going for with my smaller sized turn bet. I thought about shoving, but then like you said i wanted them to call because the odds at them point of hitting that flush was 4% right on a runner runner flush? I guess it has just seemed like lately this has happened to me more than ever these last 2 months and last night after getting rivered for 4 big pots while playing it correctly I was just tilted a bit. After reading your responses and sleeping on it you guys are right about not just moving up to 2/5 and long term that was the correct play.
IMO I think you made the right play seeming that the flop was pretty wet with the two hearts and possible straight draws even though you did have a blocker with the 9. That being said you may have been able to get more value and get a 2nd street of value seeming that you were on the button. If you had been out of position then I think your play was a great play. Being on the button I think is what makes it tricky because if you do just flat call he still has quite a few outs and if a heart hits or a 10 hits it might make you think a little bit more if he is betting in to you. If it was me I think I would have played it the same way as you did seeming that it was a huge overbet and you still got good value on your hand. Plus seeming that he was basically only $800 effective and was only getting a 1to1 call he made a good fold here. I think with a flop as wet as that was and getting decent value with the raise and then the check raise on the flop it was good to take it down there.
Thanks Dave! That’s what I was thinking too. I think I’ve honestly just had a bit of run bad these past few session when it came to this and then catching flushes. I’ve had this scenario quite a few times lately and it just seems I’ve lost everyone, but like you said I think in the long run I made the right play and just got caught up too. Thanks for the response and it puts my mind a little bit more at ease now that I’ve thought about it. I appreciate it.
