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I appreciate the feedback. Admittedly I was only at the table for a couple orbits before this hand developed, but villain seemed to be an older reg who played like a rock. His only hand that he showed was JJ and he didn’t raise this hand preflop. He just didn’t seem like the type of player to 3 bet out of position with out a premium hand.
That being said, I could see some suited connectors and possible diamond draws in his range. I did bet $80 on the turn and he mucked almost immediately.
I’m folding in this spot, but you did mention you have history with this villain. Do you think villain is capable of making a move with KQs or QJs on this board texture? If you feel he is capable of making a move like this You can make a very player dependent call and reevaluate on the river.
I agree with John S though, most player types at this level rarely bluff on this board texture. You being the preflop raiser you should have a lot more Ax in your range than he does in his limp call range. The fact that he would check raise the turn on a relatively dry board tells me he has an A with a bad kicker and doesn’t want you drawing out on him.
Villain did lead many flops with both top pair good kicker and some of his draws. The only 4 in his range, I feel, would have been something like A4s or 54s. With that in mind, and getting around 2.5 to 1 on a call, I made the call and he mucked his cards immediately.
Thanks for fixing my math. A case of fat fingers and entering the info in on my phone don’t really work well together haha. I appreciate the response.
Do you play with the same people often? If they pick up your cbetting tendencies, they will start to adjust accordingly.
When facing a shove then a re-shove I would get out of the way personally. Even if you are ahead with your JJ you will most likely be up against 2 overs a good majority of the time.
Preflop – 3bet size should be bigger, around the $75 to $80 mark, because of the additional caller and us being OOP. When you 3bet to $45 you are giving the other players a good price to call and AA doesn’t play well multi-way.
Flop – With the board being pretty wet, I like leading out on the flop to protect my hand. We will also to get some value from top pair, combo draws, and flush draws. There is some merit to check raising this flop but you do run the risk of it checking through and giving our opponents a free card. I’m not a fan of the check call route because we are letting our opponents name their price to draw.
Turn – I personally like the check call route here for pot control reasons. The Kc brings another flush draw and we are now behind AK. If we lead and our opponent raises we are put in a tough spot, and what will we do if we face a big bet on the river?
River – Facing a all in on the river I think folding is the best option. We now lose to any K, QT, 44, 99, and JJ. I don’t think my opponent will be bluffing much in this spot.
This is a bit unlucky and I don’t think there could have been anything done differently in this spot. You got it all in with the best hand and it just didn’t hold up. Gotta love poker.
Once there is a shove and restive on the flop you can assume you are against hands like AJs, a set, or some one with pair + draw (possibly higher flush draw). In this spot you’re not getting a good price to draw against two other opponents.
Given action preflop, I would say villain will be holding JJ+ and AQs+ maybe some small suited connections or even something like A5s-A2s if he has a balanced 3 bet range.
Once we decide to call the 3bet OOP we should be looking to setmine or semi-bluff some of the better flops for our range. On this flop I would look to check fold here since villains range heavily connects with this board. If you decide you want to continue, I would take the check call line because if we lead and are raised it puts us in a very rough spot.
Once he raises we should be done with the hand.
I appreciate the feedback on this hand. I would like to know why a 3x or 4x raise preflop is better than the 2.5x raise I used.
