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    Rocky Wright
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    Been grinding lately trying to get better and it never feels like i am getting anywhere. was recently in a tournament, ante 200 blinds are 1K 2K, i have around 70k in chips, villian(BTN) has 80k where i wake up with The one and only pocket rockets utg+2 so i raise to 2700 get called by the btn and bb going 3 ways to a flop which is 2d 8d 10d….pot is around 10K and i figure my AA is still probably the best hand and if not im drawing very likely to the best hand since i have the Ace of Diamonds so i figured since were a little deep and the btn has been betting a lot of flops id set a trap.. He bets 8k, bb folds i jam all in and get snapped called of by QQ no diamond.. turn comes a 5s so only 1 card will win him this hand and it comes on the river a damn Queen of spades……. looked it up cause i was so in shock turns out he only had a 2.27% of hitting that card……… cant get this out of my head any advice?

    #4464
    DeeKay
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    Yes… I do have advice. You got cold decked. We all do at some point. It happens. But just so you are aware, it was not a 2% river card. He had a 20% chance of making his set. If you look at it simply as 2% per out. He’s got two outs (both queens), and 5 cards to come (flop, turn, river)… then that’s 2x2x5=20. Likely closer to 23%. Still a suckout but he had his weak outs. Regardless… you will do the same to another sometime. Sucks, but move on… it will happen many more times

    #4475
    David Wibel
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    Yes, never ever feel bad about getting sucked out on. It happens and I’m surprised you didn’t get it all in preflop. Preflop you are about 80% to win (which means about 1 in 5 times you will lose). After the flop yeah it sucks but you can’t really feel bad about it.

    A quick reference. I played yesterday and had KTss in a raised pot, had about 60BB effective. Flop comes TcJsQs. I bet, player goes all in for about 40BB into a pot about that size and I call knowing and expecting to be behind. Why? Because the only hand I have outs to any hand possible, there is some chance he is on just the nut flush draw and even against a set or 2 pair I have outs. As it turns out he has JT and I brick on both cards. THe math on that works out to 18 outs (9 spades, 3 kings, 3 9s and 3 Aces). Believe it or not mathematically I will win about 64% of the time. Villain needs to have both draws not be any of the 18 cards I need out of 45 left. Which leads to a Villain win%=(1-18/45)*(1-18/44). This game is not about winning any one hand, it’s about making decisions which over time will make you money.

    #4849
    Rocky Wright
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    Deekay, yeah bad beats happen but like i said there was 4 diamonds on the board so his q of diamonds isnt an out.. yes he will hit a set but i will have a flush and flush beats a set so his only out is one queen by the river so on the turn his down to less than 4%

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