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  • #318
    Brad Owen
    Keymaster

    Here is a hand I played recently at the Bellagio in a 5/10 game against a European pro who has a reputation for making big bluffs sometimes. He also plays 10/20 mostly but was playing lower while waiting for his usual game. Do you fold preflop? Do you call the river? Let me know what you think. Click the link below to check it out:

    http://mysmp.me/h_h4R

    #320
    Ron Ruddick
    Participant

    One of those hands that’s hard to get away from. I would have played it the same way hard to put him on pocket AA or KK especially if he has a reputation of bluffing although that might be part of his game.

    #322
    Brad Howard
    Participant

    If he has any light 4-bets you are in decent shape to call pre flop. This seems pretty reasonable given your description. Probably around 40% equity with position.
    Bluffing the flop seems dumb since he would check boards he has crushed (AK, AA, KK). calling the flop and river seems mandatory given he has more AK than AA and KK.
    Feels like this was just a set up that he played well to check on the flop.
    Sucks.

    #398
    Meat grinder
    Participant

    I always notice people that play higher limit and play at lower limit waiting for a seat are always super aggro and drop stacks quick because they feel they are better than u. I take advantage of those people. I couldnt find a fold here after turn. No way i put him on AA or AK.

    #400
    Steven Young
    Participant

    Based on the 4 bet pre flop you could put him in AK or AA. But the way it played it is very hard to get away from. I would think I am good most of the time with JJ there. You are only losing to 3 hands. I would have got stacked too. I would have played it the same way. Would have been a hero fold for sure

    #405
    Steven Young
    Participant

    I also forgot to mention I hate pocket jacks and would have most likely folded preflop lol

    #429
    Brad Owen
    Keymaster

    Thanks guys, I appreciate the feedback. It definitely wasn’t an easy decision.

    #435
    William
    Participant

    Your JJs here are essentially a bluff catcher. You beat no value hands. It’s a tough spot. Against this villian, given your description, did you give any consideration to just flating his preflop raise?

    #444
    Brad Owen
    Keymaster

    Yeah, there are a few value hands like KQ, KT, and QT he could have and think are good. I was told he has been seen doing things like this with complete air as well. I didn’t give much consideration to flatting preflop since he was in the CO and should have a very wide range. I’m on the button and could be 3-betting a wide range too so I figured I should get a lot of calls from worse hands or he could 4-bet bluff.

    #584
    AndrewNeeme
    Participant

    I play it exactly the same except my avatar would look much more annoyed than yours does in the replayer.

    #606
    Ryan
    Participant

    I cant see you doing anything other than reloading after the hand GG

    #638
    Brad Owen
    Keymaster

    Haha Andrew, my avatar was very pissed this session. Lost 3k 🙁

    Thanks Ryan.

    #643
    Dave Thompson
    Participant

    Very unfortunate turn card for you. I don’t see how you can fold jacks full on the river. There’s certainly a good chance you’ve got a loser, but as you say there are some value hands you beat plus you’re clearly putting a fair number of bluffs in his range.

    As for preflop, if he’s as aggressive as you suggest, then folding to a 4-bet with JJ on the button seems too tight.

    Overall, I don’t see playing it any other way than what you did.

    #4809
    Doughboi
    Participant

    Set over Set man-up and reload man. We all going broke in that spot.

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