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Just the definition of a horrible spot for you. You flop a set and get it all in against someone who already flopped the nuts & someone with a draw to the nut flush…. just terrible. We’ve all been there you did exactly what you should do… just sucks man
A short response to your thought would be… if you’re going to fold top 2
pair on this board you shouldn’t be playing poker. You fold top 2 on a turn with 0 possible flushes 1 odd straight… there’s no reason to play. You cannot assume a set.. a set of 5’s? Then you’ll have to go broke.. someone can have a set on every single board unless you have that set. You can never fold top 2 pair here… you can’t rewlly fold top 2 pair on any 4 card board that doesn’t feature a clear flush for this amount of chips… obviously this takes out of a lot of complex thinking but you have top 2 pair on the turn of a low stake poker game with recs.. this isn’t 5-10 at bellagio. This is a 100% easy snap call/jam. If you could have top 2 on this board every hand you’d be a millionaire. Overthinking can be a death sentence at 1-2/1-3 these are just bad players.I don’t disagree with the pre flop fold… I fold that for $3 or $5 on a regular basis. And people don’t tend to like to hear justification because there usually isn’t much.. but sometimes you are at a table where you’re just clearly the best player with multiple donkeys and you have to widen your pre flop range from an exploitative standpoint.
Either way, I folded the hand. And I would have folded whether he showed me his cards or not. Just thought it was an interesting spot and crazy thing to see.
The math is simple.. and for the record I folded.. however, the idea of flatting his bet and seeing the card for 100 came into my mind. I didn’t show my cards and I never even said I have diamonds.. so who’s to say that if one hits he would fold. The math still isn’t great but I don’t actually believe he would auto fold to any diamond considering he doesn’t know that I have them…
If I had to do it over again, I would still fold. I just think there’s an option to call the bet now that I think it over
Some good information here… but it’s a lot to take in. To answer your question as someone who is 24 and was in a similiar spot.. saving up before you play is the correct move here. Save at least 2500-3K in your case. Use the time away from the table to study and get better.. and when you’ve saved enough, go to the table and put in some quality hours. And if you’re tilting or playing poorly… walk away! Easier said than done but it’s a bankroll saver
If you were to continuously raise A8 off to $20 in a 1-3 game.. if you don’t connect with the flop and someone bets at all… you have to fold? It’s just not a money-making decision. If it’s a hand you would fold normally it’s not a raise just bc you’re on the button? You can raise a hand you may normally just call with bc of your positioning.. but a hand that’s a fold shouldn’t just become a raise bc of your position. It will only get you into bad spots.
How has no one commented on the fact that you raised A8 off…. it’s a fold. Calling it on the button for 3 maybe.. regardless that’s a fold. You have no flush draw, no wheel draw, and a weak ass kicker… why are you raising it to 20? Johnnie has his work cut out for him. Watch him play, he’s never playing that trash.
I would start with the pre flop I think you need to go higher to see where you’re at. I play exclusively 1-2 myself and understand that some people call anything etc but I would say 15-20 pre flop is the better play here but I don’t hate the 10. On the flop is where I have the biggest issue you cannot bet 10 here. That is too low. And then he min raises you to 20? You have to know he is strong but had you bet out 30-35 and seen him call or re raise you have known he was strong for sure. The turn is a brick and he fires 50… leaving himself with very little money behind.. you have to lay this hand down. Yes you have a ton of outs.. open ended and flush draw but you know you’re 100% behind playing for 1 card.. and you know the rest is going in on the river regardless. You can lose a lot of money chasing draws. The flop bet I think is the key here and you have to let go after the turn. You end up losing basically 100 you didn’t need to. Just my 2 cents.
